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Zoro's role as a vice captain: crewmate approval

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  1. gaimon

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    Since Luffy can go wild asking anybody to be his nakama, it is important to have somebody giving him a second opinion. Zoro's role as a vice captain is to give advice or comment, or at least to be the wise one about Luffy's decision regarding the new member, or ones who are leaving the crew.

    I will show you the detail of Zoro's unique attitude towards every strawhats when they are entering or leaving the crew. The list is ordered from the one I like most first.

    1. Robin
    Zoro is the only one who did not accept Robin easily (Chapter 218).
    http://i25.***************/one-piece/218/one-piece-59449.jpg
    Also, when Robin intended to leave the crew, Zoro quickly asked Luffy whether he is okay with it (Chapter 347).
    http://i29.***************/one-piece/347/one-piece-61817.jpg

    2. Usopp
    Zoro is actually the one who asked Usopp to get on board (Chapter 41).
    http://i27.***************/one-piece/41/one-piece-2421219.jpg
    Also, when Usopp decided to quit the crew. Zoro stayed silent and respected Usopp's decision (Chapter 331).
    http://i4.***************/one-piece/331/one-piece-61519.jpg
    http://i13.***************/one-piece/331/one-piece-61520.jpg

    But Zoro wont easily approve Usopp entering the crew again, because leaving the crew is not a simple thing (Chapter 438).
    http://i36.***************/one-piece/438/one-piece-63539.jpg
    http://i27.***************/one-piece/438/one-piece-63541.jpg
    However, when Usopp finally said that he was sorry, the strawhats just stayed silent for a while. But Zoro didn't, Zoro smiled and called Usopp's name showing that Zoro was so proud of him (Chapter 438).
    http://i24.***************/one-piece/438/one-piece-63553.jpg

    3. Chopper
    Zoro commented on Luffy's way in asking Chopper to join the crew (Chapter 152).
    http://i31.***************/one-piece/152/one-piece-1690985.jpg
    Another Zoro's comment.
    http://i12.***************/one-piece/152/one-piece-1690993.jpg

    Also, when Chopper was forced to leave the crew by Foxy (Chapter 309).
    http://i32.***************/one-piece/309/one-piece-4612619.jpg
    http://i9.***************/one-piece/309/one-piece-4612621.jpg
    http://i25.***************/one-piece/309/one-piece-4612623.jpg

    4. Nami
    At first, Zoro suggested to let Nami left the crew, but in the end Luffy trusted him to follow Nami (Chapter 50).
    http://i8.***************/one-piece/50/one-piece-2421497.jpg
    http://i15.***************/one-piece/50/one-piece-2421499.jpg

    Also, when Nami enter the crew again, Zoro still worries about her betraying the crew again (Chapter 95).
    http://i2.***************/one-piece/95/one-piece-2421973.jpg

    5. Brook
    Zoro clearly did not accept Luffy's decision to have Brook as a nakama at first (Chapter 443).
    http://i34.***************/one-piece/443/one-piece-1693520.jpg
    And Zoro's anger when he know that Luffy asked somebody to be a crewmate without even knowing his name (Chapter 443).
    http://i10.***************/one-piece/443/one-piece-1693527.jpg
    Unfortunately, when Brook finally decided to enter the Strawhat pirates, Zorro was asleep (Chapter 489).
    http://i36.***************/one-piece/489/one-piece-64503.jpg
    So, Zoro would have to tell his thought about entering the crew to Brook privately (Chapter 489).
    http://i23.***************/one-piece/489/one-piece-64510.jpg

    6. Franky
    Asking Franky to join the Strawhats is not an easy job. So, I considered Zoro's effort to help Luffy asking him to join the crew as Zoro's approval (Chapter 436).
    http://i2.***************/one-piece/436/one-piece-63514.jpg

    7. Zoro
    When Kuma came to get Luffy, Zoro asked to substitute his head for Luffy's and not anybody else (not Sanji). So, in a way in order to keep Luffy in the Strawhat pirates, Zoro was ready to die (leave the crew). (Chapter 485).
    http://i9.***************/one-piece/485/one-piece-64429.jpg


    8. Vivi

    Zoro respected and accepted Vivi's decision not to go on adventures with them (Chapter 217).
    http://i40.***************/one-piece/217/one-piece-59433.jpg

    9. Luffy
    Not only regarding a position as a crewmate, Zoro also gave speeches about a position as a captain. Once is when Luffy want to take Usopp back. Another one is after Luffy fought Usopp (Chapter 333).
    http://i40.***************/one-piece/333/one-piece-1692476.jpg

    So, what happen if Zoro never comment on your status as a crewmate?

    Well, I guess instead of commenting, he will express his feeling into action.
    Look at Sanji's example! They fight all the time. :D
     
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  2. Hero Sanji

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    Nice effort!
    But i think both Sanji and Zoro have the qualitys to be the VC!
     
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  3. Che1ck

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    Is this a theory?
     
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  4. TickTocxk

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    i cant see the images,is it only me?
     
  5. Hero Sanji

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    I can see them!
     
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  6. TickTocxk

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    thats what i see
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 20, 2015, Original Post Date: Apr 20, 2015 ---
    maybe that shows you whats its showing me , plus could it possibly a missing plugin?
     
  7. Hero Sanji

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    This question may sound weird but have you tried to open the spoilers by pressing on the spoilers? Lol! Cause i can still see every photo!
     
  8. Syed

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    Agreed :yaaa: He is the VC, the right hand man of SH. It's been hinted since the start even when sanji haven't joined. So someone accepting or not accepting will not change a thing :yaaa:
     
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    yes XD it just open and show a broken image
     
  10. Hero Sanji

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    Hmm then maybe it is a missing plugin...dunno bro!
     
  11. DeeDee

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    Agree with you 100% on this. I also think they are not Strawhats until they get approval from Zoro. This shows most clearly with Nami and Robin. Zoro put up with the others until they matured and confirm their position in the crew. But Zoro was strongly against the two female members at first and constantly be doubtful of their actions.

    Zoro never made any comment on Sanji joining the crew. He was not even there when Sanji accepted Luffy's proposal. Zoro never acknowledge Sanji either as a cook or a fighter. But still it seems almost nature even for the first-mate that Sanji's joining.

    The contradiction that he has with Sanji is what seems amusing to me. Both Sanji and Zoro share great vice-captain material. Zoro demonstrates absolute respect towards his captain and be a great role model to the rest of the crew. Sanji is sexist, he does not have much words for men but he's a tactic whereas Zoro and Luffy are both muscle-headed. He drives the crew in the right direction without other really knowing.
     
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  12. BossYimz

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    @gaimon, I agree with you 100%. It makes sense completely. Once Zoro accepts someone, they they will stay in the SH.
    VC of SH. He lays down the law. He also tells it like it is. No mincing words.
     
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    Nice read!

    It is obvious and also hinted that Zoro is the Vice Captain of the Strawhats, there's no doubting about that.

    Zoro proved that in several occasions.


    You also have could take the speech in Punk Hazard to your thread, where Zoro talks to Luffy "to get a grip, because this is just the beginning of the new world."

    Zoro is "Mugiwara no Ichimi No 2"
     
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  14. Syed

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    :yaaa:
     
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    I appreciate the effort , and while I clearly believe the marines and commoners perceive Zoro as the Vice-Captain , I think Luffy will never properly name him Vice-Captain..so I kinda dislike when people refer to him as the Vice Captain ( IRL not in the Manga). I don't know exactly what to say about your finds, that's how he is ... so all those scenes showcase his personality. In my opinion those are not necessary Vice-Captain traits.
    For me , both Sanji and Zoro have vice Captain traits , Sanji is the kind of guy that "blends" with his people , Zoro is the kind of guy that watches over them from afar. Zoro plays the "big brother" role for Chopper , Sanji does it for Usopp , Sanji has Nami , Zoro has Robin , Zoro has Franky ,Sanji has Brook...
    Idk if Luffy will ever give official titles , and if he will maybe Sanji will get a title as well , just how Buggy had a First mate and a Second mate... although Sanji is sneaky and untill "that moment" when he will become the most feared man by the marines he will probably remain as mysterious as he is
     
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  16. Twelve

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    I am curious is Killer actually named as VC of Kid Pirates?

    Oris that a Zoro type scenario too?
     
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    Personally, I feel they are all Zoro type scenarios.
    All this tym there has never been anyone who is actually called VC by the captain.
    It is just known. It is the people from other crew, marines or normal people that refer to them with those titles.
     
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  18. Hero Sanji

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    I agree with this! :yaaa:
    This is Zoro's personality how he is! (not saying he has no VC traits)! Rayleigh was named as the VC by his captain so there is no reason to think that Zoro doesn't need to be named as the VC in order to be the VC! Oda by himself and Luffy by himself have never stated Zoro as the VC but people like Barto have and that has several reasons like Zoro being the first one to join, Zoro being already a famous man before joining the SH, Zoro's personality, the Whiskey Peak scene etc...
    I think both Sanji and Zoro have VC traits and both have shown on different situations traits which a VC has to have!
     
  19. Monkey D Junior

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    This is so true I can see them some episodes you brought up so idk what I expecting whether Zoro stay or leave but I trust him and won't leave :) and also sanji and Zoro always fight at each other lol I feel Sanji should become vice captain too or commander to protect SH crew idk hmm
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    Yes at Sabaody Arc it sure look like Killer is the vice captain and also remember captain Kid asked killer "what does 16 bell rings mean?" After Ace died... so he answered it ... that's how Killer is the vice captain
     
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    Yep i meant specified verbally by someone in the crew, not by actions (looking to see if zoros situation is an anomoly, is where i was going)
     
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