Questions & Mysteries Why Is Haki So Easy For Luffy to Master but Not His Devil Fruit?

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  1. Rp4lyf

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    It took Luffy 1 year & 6 months to Master the basics of ALL 3 Haki. That is extremely fast, he then fought Katakuri and unlocked a rare form of Advanced CoO, Future Sight. Yes, I know Rayleigh said Luffy has been using Observation Haki unconsciously since he was young, but still

    Now for the confusing part

    Now he is going to unlock Advanced CoA. A Weapons User Technique(BAOT). Something that took Zoro many years of intense training to unlock. He was taught Haki as a child by Koshiro. He has been using Armament Haki since he unlocked it, in his fight against Mr1 at Alabasta. This is also his speciality. Garp was not even shown using Air Cannons, nor was Katakuri

    How come he has not Awakened his Devil Fruit Yet? He has had it for 12 years now?

    Is Luffy's Devil Fruit the hardest Devil Fruit to use? Unlike Logia's and Zoans, which are easy to master.

    Why is Haki Easier for Luffy to Master?

    Luffy should be using an Advanced form of Koka, like Garp and Kataluri but Oda is having Luffy fight differently from Garp.

    Oda did write himself into a corner with Luffy. Other wise he would be fighting like Garp
     
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    He is supposed to be Awakened by Now. How come he hsan't?
     
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    If akainu had the gomu gomu no mi he would awaken it in under 1 year
     
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    I doubt that he would. His Devil Fruit is easy to master. It is a Logia, not much training is needed unlike Luffy Devil Fruit which you need to be physically strong to use it as well as precise.
     
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    Because awakening is harder (at least for Logia/Paramecia). Sabo became a master of CoA in by age 22. In fact if Oda's "supervised" filler for the anime is right, he might have even used advanced CoA by 17 years old. Even Marigold has "advanced CoA".
     
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    What evidence do you base that on?
     
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    Exacly, thank you for proving my point. Poeple have can have their Devil Fruits for years and not Awaken them.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 28, 2019, Original Post Date: Apr 28, 2019 ---
    On the way his abilities work, his Gears take Life Force and Stamina. His punches require momentum to be thrown. His fruit is tricky to use as evident by Luffy taking 10 years to master how his fruit usage. This is also proven by kid Luffy when he had trouble throwing punches or even doing normal activity, causing Ace call Luffy's Devil Fruit Useless.
     
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    Aye, someone take bro keyboard right quick
     
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    Anyway, can you please answer the questions I wrote?
     
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    Luffy is a fighting genius. His deciphering abilities during battle stretches all the way back to pre-skip.

    He quickly understood how CP9 did Soru and came up with his own way of doing it. Even Blueno was shocked. He figured out how to beat Croc, and learned how Kata appeared as a "logia".
     
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    Because he is dumb as hell
     
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    I believe it's that Luffy is "Shonen main character smart", where he is able to pick things up in the moment or in the heat of battle, take the CP9's movement technique he was able to figure out how to do it after seeing it a few times and able to do it. I think it is the same with Haki, he was taught it by Rayleigh, and through battles is improving it and learning more about it, there have not been anyone to show Luffy ways to improve his Devil Fruit, or shown ways to awaken it.

    That's why I don't consider his "gears" to be advancing his Devil Fruit, rather his Devil Fruit has stayed the same level, Luffy came up with the techniques by himself, if that makes sense.
     
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    Obvious answer: Haki is something universal. Something you can learn from other people. Theres a map and guides for navigating the landscape of Haki.

    Theres no guide for how to master your Devil Fruit. People have to make up their own way to fight with it.

    Luffy's doing all he can with his DF. He's put more work into his DF than most people.
     
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    If he put in more work than other people did in their usage of devil fruits.
    Does this mean his devil fruit is harder to use than the logia's like the Mera Mera, Magu Magu no mi and Zoan fruits like the CP9 user?
     
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    Yes I think so, his fruit is very non-combatant so it doesn't give real advantages except for a immunity to blunt attacks naturally, Luffy's fighting style is not because of his Devil Fruit like logia's, or simply the physical boost like Zoan types.
     
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    Well, all Luffy's fruit allows him to do at a basic level is stretch and have resistance to blunt attacks. So I would say using and mastering his DF should be way harder than a Logia and a Zoan.
     
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    Because for haki, he had a teacher to tell him what direction to go and what steps to follow in order to achieve his goal. His DF is his alone and is only leveled up based on the individual and how they go about using their devil fruit. Time does not equal Awakening. Most people go their whole entire lives with a DF without ever awakening it. Time does not equal mastery either for both haki and DF. People can go their whole lives without even discovering that there even is haki, which is why having a teacher is so beneficial. Luffy had so many things taught to him about haki whereas he didn't have a teacher for his DF.
     
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    do you have any authority over what is supposed to happen in the story?
    he is supposed to awaken his devil fruit when oda wants him to awaken it and there is no getting past that. we have only seem others who are much older than luffy awaken their DFs thus far so its fair to assume that its a very difficult and time consuming task. doflomingo and katakuri had their devil fruits for a long while and we have no idea how long the impel down guards had theirs.
    be patient.
     
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    Because he was taught by a master teacher(s). I doubt he can find another Gomu Gomu user to teach him all about the fruit.
     
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