Discussion Who will take out the enemy states Great Generals?

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  1. Zephyr

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    I think coalition army Hara mentioned & showed us the main players of each states during unification war.

    Yan ----> Ordo.
    Zhao---> Riboku + Houken
    Chu----> Karin + KouEn
    Wei----> GoHouMei
    Qi -----> GanMo

    Han had GG SeiKai but he got killed by Choutou. It's also stated to be the weakest state. So I am not really concerned about them.

    Question is who do you think will take out the enemy states Great Generals?
     
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  2. MONET

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    Houken =shin
    KouEn= mobu
    GoHouMei=ohon
    ordo =moten
     
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  3. Boy D. Raphael

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    Houken would definitely fall to Ouki's glaive and maybe some Great General from Chu will smashed by Shin.

    Kou En will be defeated by Mouten, maybe? Or maybe by Moubu in the later part.

    Ordo will either be killed by Shin or Ouhon or maybe Ousen.

    Gohoumei is inevitably slain by Ouhon.

    As for Han commanderies, they could be destroyed by Tou.

    And lastly, Qi Great General will either be slain by Shin or Ouhon.

    Regarding Riboku, i doubt he would be killed by Qin Great General.
     
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  4. The Fool

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    Zhao:
    Riboku - I don't know
    Houken - Shin
    Wei:
    Go Hou Mei - Ou Hon
    Gai Mou - Shin
    Han:
    Any name General - Tou
    Yan:
    Ordo - Mouten
    Chu:
    Karin - Ousen
    Kou En - Moubo
    Qi:
    Any name General - Shin/Mouten
     
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  5. TheoryKing

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    Tliger of Chu & Houken are reserved for Shin.
     
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    I feel like the Gohoumei vs Tou hype has been real.
    Essentially we've seen Tou do very little, and it's been highly regarded Gohoumei considers him his most worthy opponent.
    I would be shocked if they didn't have a massive battle with Tou showing his true capabilities.
     
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    I agree.

    Hara is clearly setting up Tou vs GohouMei but actual history shows Tou didn't have any contribution in beating Wei. It was all Ouhon.

    No idea what route Hara will take here.
     
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  8. BossYimz

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    1. Riboku + Houken -will be taken out by HSU
    2. Tiger of Chu- Moubu
    The rest I don't know
     
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  9. Zephyr

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    To be honest I want KouEn to fall in the hands of Shun. I won't mind if Karin falls in Shin's hand instead of KouEn.

    Shin is going to lose to in Chu horribly. I want him to have atleast some achievement in Chu before getting betrayed by ShouHeiKun.
     
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    Moubu vs Tiger of Chu:
    • imo, the fight with tiger of Chu is being setup for Moubu.
    • Moubu wants to be known as the strongest
    • He is placed at the Chu border
    • Tiger of Chu if am not mistaken has been said to be the strongest in Chu
    • Moubu is currently the strongest in Qin
    As for Shin:
    • Shin imo will fight that other new gen guy from Chu, Kou Yoku
    • If am not mistaken he too want to be a great general of Chu
    • By the time Shin goes to fight in Chiu, I think he will be a great general
    • Kou Yoku will also be a great general at that point imo
    • So I see him clashing with that guy
    As for Karin:
    • I feel like he is being set up to fight against Ousen/Mouten
    • I feel like a strategic duel is being setup.
    • I just can't see Shin fighting her.
    • It just seems weird in my head
     
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  11. Zephyr

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    Through the whole manga I never found anything that suggests KouEn was being set up for MouBu.

    Also he isn't known to be strongest, KanMei was. He is known as the GG with the longest service record & possibly the best GG of Chu. Nothing about his physical strength.

    If anything according to Hara's extra chapter MouBu is set to beat ShouHeiKun.


    KouYuku was set up against MouTen and OuHon in coalition arc.

    As MouTen is one of the general that will lead the campaign against Chu I see him beat KouYoku.


    As it was set up in coalition arc I would rather have Tou beating Karin.

    Also Ousen is supposed to go against ShouHeiKun in Chu. So he already has a big opponent there.

    In a nutshell for Chu,

    Shin Vs KouEn.
    Tou Vs Karin.
    KouYoku Vs MouTen.
    OuSen Vs ShouHeiKun [Strategy].
    MouBu Vs ShouHeiKun.[Martial Dual].
     
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  12. BossYimz

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    • I thought Koen was the strongest. I might have been mistaken then.
    • I still feel like him and Moubu will clash


    • Shin and Kou Yoku clashed against each other and were more or less even. They never got to finish the fight.
    • Kou Yoku also implied that he would have performed better if he had his sword.
    • Shin also informed him to not underestimate Qin's new gen
    • So I feel that he is Shin's opponent due to that.

    • I have no problem with Tou beating Karin.
    • I just feel like she will fight against a strategic type from Qin.
    • I chose Ousen/Mouten coz they will be the best strategic general in Qin
    Imo it will be:
    Shin vs Kou Youku
    Mouten vs Karin
    Moubu vs KouEn

    Then after the defection of SHK:
    Moubu vs SHK
    With the help of Ousen as strategist

    If am not mistaken, SHK only defected when he noticed that Chu was about to be defeated. This implies that some of the generals were already defeated. So he stepped in to help.
     
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  13. Zephyr

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    Yes, they had a short skirmish. But MouTen & OuHon were seriously fighting KokuYou in coalition arc.

    Nonetheless, KouYoku is probably going to be a deputy of KaRin. I don't see him becoming top GG while Karin & KouEn is still alive.

    If memory serves right KouYoku join hands with ShouHeiKun & beats Shin. So a scenario where Shin beats a Chu GG KouEn but later loses KouYoko teaming up with ShouHeiKun is what I would prefer most.


    Tou is a strategist type though. But he is also a martial general.

    Also Hara hyped up Tou a lot. Ouki, GoHouMei or RaiOu all praised him. He is the only general stated have no weakness.. Tou army vs Karin army was one of my favorite fight in coalition army.

    While history may didn't do him a favor Hara can put Karin up against Tou just like during coalition army & give us a great fight. I want to see what they started during Coalition war to finish.

    It can go that way. But I would have Shin beat a GG of superpower Chu before he gets his ass kicked by KouYoku & ShouHeiKun.
     
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  14. Marcusx8

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    It was KouEn and SHK that defeated Shin not KouYoku. If I remember correctly KouYoku defeated Qin after the unification.
     
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    No , the leader of rebellion was his son not KouYoku himself , KouYoku killed by ousen .
     
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  17. mettalica.D.symon

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    It's kind of weird that the other states have so few Great Generals. I mean a country like Zhao only limits itself to 3 great generals (3 Great Devas). Qin had six plus Duke, Mougu and Choutu.
     
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    I think Zhao has more GG for example Gakujou but maybe only 3 Qin’s 6 types.
     
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    I think most of great general will fall under shin,because unlike mouten or ouhon shin will absolutly will be part of every state campaign.i think both mouten and ouhon will have general slaying moment but to think that it would be enemy supreme commander naah.it still shin prey
     
  20. mettalica.D.symon

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    Really? I don't think we have seen any great general from Zhao other than the great devas. All we see are regular generals with high reputation. Qin promoted Ouki strongest lieutenant to GG general in no time while lieutenants of the likes of Rinshoju have been stuck at general level for god knows how long. Keisha was a regular general who was said to be closest to becoming a Great Heaven. Which means in Zhao what comes after the rank of general is Great Heaven.
    It seems in Qin as long as you are general sooner or later you get slapped with GG title no matter how average you are (Mougu and Choutu )
     
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