General & Other Was Roger's crew way stronger than a Yonko crew?

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    Yes 4 CoC users in 1 crew.
     
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    B to disagree though if he was an considering the strengths of his retainers he could have prevented the fall of his reign in wano
     
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    Way stronger? No. Stronger? Yes
     
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    Doesnt mean oden is above king though, king and queen called jack the drag down, and clearly king is a superior one against jack, so you can put it this way

    Oden > shutenmaru = jack so meaning

    Oden > jack

    But doesnt necessarily mean

    oden > king

    Because

    king >> jack
     
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    Oden= King, who is >>Jack
     
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    Shutenmaru is basically the same as Inu and Neko.

    All three surprised Jack with their strength but after that Jack was able to handle them.

    And then later Shutenmaru was said to be equal with Inu in their clash.

    So basically Shutenmaru=Inu=Neko. And we know that Inu and Neko are weaker than Jack.

    In conclusion Jack>Shutenmaru.
     
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    No, he called Jack a Smallfry, nor could Jack beat him.
     
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    well if king will have coc then we can still argue that but if he does not then the game are pretty much done for!we do know oden had coc! what about king?
     
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    pirate king crew had 3 yonko level fighter at prime
     
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    Oden is confirmed to have conqueror, and king is not, Oden had 2 pets than not in soulong form are on par with a calamity! Lol
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 22, 2019, Original Post Date: Jan 22, 2019 ---
    Also admiral.level does not.mean Yonkou level ars far as I am concerned
     
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    Two pets on par with a calamity (AKA could not hurt Jack during 5 days even in a 2 v1). I wouldn't say they are individually on par with calamities from current showing.
     
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    Oden pets ..inu and Neko equal jack
    Kaido pets...king and queen...and jack
    Here the difference
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    Neither jack could hurt them in 5 days of fights and they never tag team...all that I can grant to Jack is more durability , not strength, he beat them becouse of the gastino gas, otherwise he would have last up until the full moon lol
     
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    note: Jack > than baseInu and baseNeko. They couldn't hurt him at all for 5 whole days.
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    Jack could hurt them, it specifically said they healed during their rests. It wasn't a true tag team, but they were utilizing the 2v1. And pages also imply other minks could have helped, but we know fodder is fodder.
     
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    With a lower calamity level YC3 yes they are pretty much close to it as we saw, soulong form gives them the edge too
    --- Double Post Merged, Jan 22, 2019, Original Post Date: Jan 22, 2019 ---
    The only way jack could bring them down was becouse of the gas, I think that was pretty clear
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    Aside from the wrong conclusion you just said it yourself, they are all on the same level
     
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    we don't know all of the members on the roger pirates but as a implied guess, probably at or above a yonko crew
     
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    if pirate king level is at yonko crew stregth than zoro will never surpass YC1 and be worlds strongest swordsmen lol all of them are below admiral and yonko maybe mihawk is below that too?
     
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    I'd have to read it again. But pretty sure it went like this.

    Jack gets tossed. Hype.... nothing happens for 5 days.
    Minks admit they did 0 damage to Jack in 5 days.
    Minks admit the leaders were healing during rest.
    Implied they were all trying to hurt Jack and couldn't.
    States Jack got bored/tired and used the gas.

    I'm not a Jack fan. But the manga portrayed him as superior outside of the mysterious full moon, then we'd show him YEA
     
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    Jack fought for 5 days straight while Neko and Inu had 12 hours of rest everyday.

    Jack is above those two.

    Inu=Ashura is pretty much factual as well

    So we can conclude that Jack is above Ashura
     
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    Where was Inu = Asura stated? Other than Zoro admiring him?
     
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    Since Oden could beat Ashura i.e in his Prime, he was atleast Yc2+. Considering he is not even Top members of Rodger Pirates, it is safe to guess they were all beasts. So Scopper could be close to Admiral, Rayleigh Solid Admiral and Rodger, the Strongest above all.

    So Yes Rodger crew was stronger than Yonkou n Pirates by good margin. I still can't get tho how come WB rivalled Rodger, maybe only WB himself was a match for Rodger, not the entire crew.

    I also think if Rodger had not been ill and if they had fought war against the WG and tried destroying Mariejoies, they would have been even more stronger. That's why SHs will be evn more stronger. Luffy, Zoro n Sanji will surpass Rodger top trio.
     
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