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There's Something About Monet (Nakama Theory)

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    Most believe that Monet's character was killed at the end of the Punk Hazard Arc, but I disagree with that assessment and I will explain myself in a short while, as first I would just like to note that while I will make an effort to be as objective as I possibly can, there will be a certain degree of bias driving me during my interpretation of the scenes which I will be using to support my theory surrounding Monet regarding her potential as a Straw Hat nakama candidate as I have quite the obsession with her character. Be it my delusion, hope, insanity, ego or something even more intangible, there is some incomprehensibly mysterious force compelling me to follow through with this desire.

    I was one of the first, if not the first, to correctly predict that Monet was a Logia Devil Fruit user - the Yuki-Onna, so I have a certain attachment to her character and cannot not believe in my feeling that Monet has a deeper relevance in the story than what we were shown.

    Now before Monet's character can be considered a potential candidate for a Straw Hat nakama, there are certain arguments that need to be addressed:
    • Monet's was killed by Caesar Clown on Punk Hazard;
    • Monet is a villainous and evil person;
    • Monet is loyal to Donquixote Doflamingo
    Those are basically the three main elements preventing Monet's character from being considered anything beyond a villain. Once I tackle those elements, I will express why I believe Monet has potential to become a Straw Hat member.

    Evidence against Monet being dead:

    Now as I stated in the beginning of the post, many believe that Monet's apparent death scene is one of the most clear-cut cases of a character being killed in One Piece - "heart being stabbed". I disagree with the usual interpretation of the scene in question and feel Monet's death is one of the most ambiguous deaths in One Piece, mainly because Oda structured the scene in a way to make it appear as if Caesar had [fully] stabbed Monet's heart, but in actuality, he only managed to graze the "block of flesh". If you notice the scene of Caesar lying unconscious in the chapter following the one where he attacked Monet's heart, you notice that the item he used as a weapon is lying face up in the ground away from Monet's heart (not lodged inside). Now why would that be the case?

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    I highly doubt Caesar used the item to stab the "heart", pulled it out and then proceeded to force it into the ground next to the heart before passing out. The most logical explanation is as Caesar forced the item down onto the "block of flesh" containing Monet's heart, it only grazed the side of the "block of flesh" causing the "block of flesh" to slide away and subsequently the item Caesar was using as a weapon ended up being forced into the ground. The "block of flesh" seems to have the quality of being squishy, so it wouldn't be too surprising if the "block of flesh" slid forward as Caesar tried to stab it. As a result the item Caesar used got lodged into the ground as he passed out from exhaustion (and/or his injuries from Luffy).

    One also has to wonder, if Oda had intended for Monet's character to die, why not show the weapon Caesar used to attack Monet's heart to be left lodged inside Monet's heart? Why go out of his way to illustrate the weapon stuck in the ground face-up away from her heart as if to convey that the majority of the force in Caesar's strike was absorbed by the ground and not Monet's heart? Surely there must be a reason for why Oda went about illustrating "Monet's death" scene in such a curious and ambiguous way =/.

    As for why Monet coughed out blood and got knocked unconscious when her heart got stabbed, it is mainly due to the force applied to her heart exacerbated by her weakened state after her battle with Zoro and Tashigi. Law also coughed up blood and got knocked unconscious when Caesar applied force to his heart, so regardless of actual physical damage to the heart, a person can be knocked unconscious with just force:

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    Also regarding the lab collapsing, it wasn't revealed whether the C-Block collapsed or not. Sure debris was falling in the scene around Monet when she collapsed but that is hardly proof that the C-Block was fully destroyed after the explosion in D-Block, plus no mention of the Shinokuni breaching the C-Block was made by Oda. From the last update of the state of Caesar's Research Institute, C-Block was revealed to be fine by Oda.

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    The final state of the C-Block at the end of the events at Punk Hazard wasn't revealed. So at this point we cannot conclusively say that the C-Block was destroyed along with the rest of the lab.

    Everything about Monet's supposed "death" is ambiguous, including the fact that her heart was left at the one place of Punk Hazard that the Shinokuni gas did not reach. This is why I want to know, if Oda wanted Monet dead, why wasn't he more clear-cut/conclusive about her death? Why leave open the possibility of her being alive?

    Additionally, the oddities and strange circumstances surrounding Monet's character and the lack of explanation we have gotten regarding her actions and intentions could definitely use with some clarification, which would be quite hard if she were dead.

    I am confident Oda just made it appear he killed Monet off when in fact he didn't have her die.

    Furthermore, if you look at all the character who died in One Piece (important or seemingly relevant characters), you will notice how Oda always has another character ready to inherit the dead characters will and carry it into the future. The words Hiluluk stated before his death echoes quite prominently with all the deaths in One Piece:

    • Gol D. Roger – Luffy
    • Kuina – Zoro
    • Banchina – Usopp
    • Bell-mère – Nami + Nojiko
    • Hiluluk – Tony Tony Chopper/Dr. Kureha
    • Nefertari Titi – Nefertari Vivi
    • Montblanc Noland – Montblanc Cricket
    • Calgara and the Shandian Ancestors – Wiper + the Shandians
    • Tom – Franky/Iceburg
    • Nico Olivia/Jaguar D. Saul/Clover/Ohara residents – Nico Robin
    • Yorki and the Rumbar Pirates – Brook
    • Portgas D. Rouge – Portgas D. Ace
    • Portgas D. Ace – Luffy/Sabo
    • Edward Newgate (Whitebeard) – Marco and the Whitebeard Pirates
    • Vander Decken – Vander Deckan IX
    • Fisher Tiger – Jinbe/Koala
    • Otohime – Shirahoshi/Jinbe
    • Joy Boy – Luffy
    • Scarlett – Rebecca/Viola
    • Donquixote Homing and his wife – Donquixote Rosinante
    • Donquixote Rosinante/Law’s parents/Lami/Flevance residents – Trafalgar D. Water Law
    • Lucian/Gimlett – Senor Pink
    Who would inherit Vergo and Monet’s will/remember them if they were really dead? Doflamingo? Somehow I doubt someone as selfish and heartless as him would spend his time thinking about another persons will let alone keep the memory of them alive even if they were his subordinates. Therefore, with no one to inherit Vergo and Monet’s will/keep their existence alive through memory, the chances of them actually being dead on Punk Hazard are almost certainly zero. Oda just doesn’t cold-heartedly kill off characters, it isn’t his style, there is always a ray of sunshine waiting to illuminate a tragic moment.

    Is Monet evil and irredeemable?

    I honestly don't think Monet is evil, she may have helped Caesar during his experiments, but she was only carrying out the orders she was given by her captain and ultimately Monet was never shown to kill anyone. Her actions were conveyed as being incredibly ambiguous by Oda, and I have been wondering, why exactly would Oda do such a thing?

    Monet was never shown to hurt any of the children during the Punk Hazard Arc and even when Monet had the opportunity to immobilize Mocha in Biscuit's Room while Mocha was running away with the "candy", Monet didn't, she settled for only blocking the doorway. Monet also had the opportunity to kill or severely wound Robin when Monet caught her by surprise, but Monet chose to only shallowly wound Robin to "warn" her. Seeing as Robin is fine on Dressrosa a day after she received the injury from Monet, the injury itself must not have been too serious (Robin is able to defend herself against Hakuba and defend Rebecca against Diamante).

    Monet going after Nami and Chopper wasn't a surprise, those two are also pirates, so from Monet's perspective, not knowing that the Straw Hats were helping the children, she most likely thought that they did some bad things to the children, being 'crude' pirates and all. It is unclear if Monet would have wounded Nami and/or Chopper in the same way as Robin - a shallow wound. Additionally, Monet was actively preventing the Straw Hats from following the children, but after Chopper mentioned it was the children who asked them for help in response to Monet's comment about one of them planting the thought inside Mocha to rebel, she turned her focus to Zoro and let Robin, Nami and Chopper go - well she didn't make any more attempts to stop them or block the doorway again with snow. Monet could have continued to pursue Nami, Chopper and Robin and avoid Zoro, but she didn't after Chopper made that comment.

    As for Monet knowingly giving the children NHC10, it is arguable whether Monet was aware of the drug inside the "candy" or even what the drugs exact effects were. The flashback scene with Momonosuke finding out about Caesar's intentions implies that Monet was only told about the nature of the Giantification experiments at that point. It would be quite redundant for Caesar to tell Monet about the limitations and dangers of the Giantification experiments again if he had told Monet before. The fact that he mentions it implies that it is Caesar's first time sharing that information with Monet. Monet had already expressed that she had no idea what Caesar's "Smiley" experiment was about, so she may not have known about the NHC10 in the "candy" or even known about the effects of NHC10 - according to Chopper NHC10 is a rare drug for doctors to possess. Monet would have either had to researched what NHC10 was or have Caesar tell her, but seeing as neither was expressly mentioned to have happened in the story arc, it is possibly that Monet had no idea about the true nature of NHC10. Also the only reason Monet even knew about Caesar's slime pet was because Caesar told her about it a few chapters prior to Monet mentioning Smiley to Vergo. Monet didn't seem to have much interest in the workings of Caesar's experiments. Furthermore, not even Law knew about the danger of the "candy" during his several month stay on Punk Hazard within the facility, and Law is a doctor. Seeing as Caesar is cautious around "smart" people (taking Law's heart), he may have purposefully withheld information from Monet, until of course he expressly mentioned it to her.

    Monet is also of the opinion that Caesar is a man with "atrocious taste", implying that she doesn't agree with his ways of handling things. This is further supported by how Monet takes a jab at Caesar and calls his experiment after killing a person (his subordinate who believed in him) a "failure". Monet also brings to Caesar's attention the Den Den Mushi call with his subordinates asking for help and in another occasion, she inquires with Caesar about his men being left outside with the Shino Kuni and how they are going to be let in. Monet also questioned Caesar's decision to release the Shino Kuni where Sanji and Vergo were fighting. As you can see, Monet doesn't agree with Caesar and has expressed on several occasions how different she is from him.

    Whatever Monet's intentions were with the children, what is certain is that Monet made sure the children were cared for and comforted while they were in the facility, she seemed to genuinely care for how they were treated and while carrying out her "mission" she made sure the children got along with each other. One of the kids even said that 'they have fun in the Biscuit Room and can forget their troubles'. Certainly that proves that the children were looked after and weren't mistreated to the point of them falling into despair and wishing to die. I highly doubt it was under Caesar's guidance or the former prisoners care (who the children were seemingly afraid of) that led to the kids maintaining such a peaceful environment and joyous attitude. Monet was the one caring for the children and made sure that the kids had a comfortable and stress free time in the Biscuit Room. Ultimately Monet was under orders from Doflamingo, who would eliminate her if she failed in performing them. Due to her orders (and belief in Doflamingo), Monet had a reason to continue allowing Caesar to experiment on the children regardless of whether she knew the risk he was putting the children under with the drugs.

    Monet was also the one who suggested to Law to use his Ope Ope no Mi ability and medical skills to heal the ex-prisoners who had been ravaged by the poison gas on Punk Hazard. I find it hard to believe that a person without compassion would make such a request, especially when they just found out that there was a doctor in possession of the Ope Ope no Mi in their presence. Requesting Law to heal the former prisoners was beyond Monet's scope of duty, and if she were evil and cold-hearted, one would expect her not to give a dam about anybody else (i.e. Caesar), but instead we have Monet coming up with a solution to end the suffering of the former prisoners afflicted by Caesar's poison gas. Once again we have evidence of Monet caring about Caesar's subordinates.

    There is also the possibility that Viola was able to be kept alive because it was Monet who brought her Devil Fruit ability to Doflamingo's attention. There is nothing at this point in the story to indicate that Doflamingo knew anything about Viola's ability before he began his takeover ten years ago, but we know for a fact that Monet was aware of Viola's Senrigan and what it could do. During the takeover, the Riku Family members were being targeted and killed, which is why Scarlett ended up dead as opposed to captured. Viola may have ended up the same way, but Monet captured her instead, I wonder why? Most likely so Viola could be of use to Doflamingo? Monet having some skills in scouting and information gathering, could have allowed her to realise the value in the Giro Giro no Mi which Viola possessed.

    Monet certainly did contribute to the children's problems in Punk Hazard, but based on how Oda conveyed Monet's character, she genuinely had a heart capable of compassion and love conveyed through her making sure the children on Punk Hazard were looked after and happy as well as trying to help Caesar's subordinates by trying to get Caesar to help/care for them (unfortunately Caesar didn't give a dam about them).

    Monet's loyalty to Doflamingo:

    Given the way Monet was prepared to sacrifice herself for her captain, there is certainly a deep level of loyalty between Monet and Doflamingo. But what exactly founded such a loyalty and what keeps Monet maintaining such a loyalty towards Doflamingo?

    Monet wasn't featured in the Law/Doflamingo flashback during the Dressrosa arc, so there is currently no information surrounding the manner in how Monet ended up being a part of the Donquixote Pirates. Logically though, Monet would have joined after the incident with Rosinante on Minion as for that operation, Doflamingo had gathered his full force to attempt to steal the Ope Ope no Mi. If Monet was a part of the crew back than, Doflamingo would have had her join in the operation as well. It is likely that Monet only became a part of the Donquixote Pirates after the events on Minion and within the three years preceding the Dressrosa takeover operation.

    >>Monet's past:

    Monet's loyalty to Doflamingo could be due to a specific reason from the past. One I have been entertaining is that Monet was a former [Tenryuubito] slave and Doflamingo freed her while carrying out his mission of destroying the 'world' the Tenryuubito control.

    If Monet were a former slave, it could explain her relationship to Doflamingo, why she is so loyal to him and possibly why Monet's character seems so strange (and borderline twisted at times). Also we do know that the Tenryuubito are open to feeding some of their slaves Devil Fruits for entertainment purposes, it wouldn't be too surprising that a rare Devil Fruit like the Yuki Yuki no Mi was given to Monet by the Tenryuubito. It is also possible that Doflamingo could have given Monet's the Yuki Yuki no Mi after he liberated her from slavery.

    When Doflamingo decided to become a pirate and target the Tenryuubito, on one of his operations he may have attacked a Tenryuubito and taken one (or more) of the slaves/prisoners which the Tenryuubito "controlled" with him, specifically Monet (because of her ability?). The Yuki Yuki no Mi is a rare fruit and seeing as Doflamingo was actively searching for Devil Fruits prior to the Dressrosa takeover, he could have seen value in what Monet could do. Just like it was with Jean Bart, Boa Hancock and her sisters, and Koala, they are extremely indebted to their saviors. If Monet were a slave and subject to torment and suffering that caused her to only think about dying, Doflamingo saving her would explain the level of loyalty she has for him. Also with Doflamingo holding a certain "trump card" against the Tenryuubito (the secret of the National Treasure of Mariejois), the Tenryuubito wouldn't risk targeting him even if he stole one (or more) of their slaves - they could just buy more after all.

    Given that Monet has wings now replacing her arms, not just wings on top of keeping her arms, it can be argued that Monet requested Law (if he did use his ability as Usopp gathered) to carry out such an act to remove her limbs for a reason. If her arms and legs were tainted with the memories of her traumatic past (memories of the shackles once binding her), it could explain why she had them removed, in order to escape such pain from resurfacing. With Oda going through the effort of explaining certain oddities of the Donquixote Pirates - Baby 5's tendency to feel needed and Senor Pink's clothes, it is very likely that there is a genuine reason tying into Monet's past for Monet replacing her arms and legs with wings and talons respectively.

    Monet being a former [Tenryuubito] slave could also help explain why she suffered from extreme paralysing fear when Zoro came at her with intent to slice her (which she believed would be backed with Haki). Once becoming a Logia Devil Fruit user (if the Tenryuubito fed her the Yuki Yuki no Mi), Monet may have been disciplined by a male 'master' (a Tenryuubito or a subordinate of one) who could use Busoshoku Haki, so a terror associated with Haki used by an intimidating male could have been engraved in Monet. Monet's body having felt the effects of Haki and Zoro approaching her with his sword having his Haki ready and conveying every intention to cut her could have taken Monet back to a past memory of her being abused by Haki. The overwhelming fear from back then could have subconsciously came rushing out during her fight with Zoro and froze her body in place when Zoro charged her. That rush of fear could also be responsible for Monet losing control over her ability with her mind being shaken up so intensely. If instead Monet only received the Yuki Yuki no Mi when she became a Donquixote Pirate, there still would be trauma associated with a male when she was a [Tenryuubito] slave. Zoro projecting his killing intent may have been what caused Monet to recall painful memories from her past and subsequently freeze up.

    Since the incident of Zoro's intent to kill freezing an opponent is isolated to Monet as of yet, it is possible that more than Zoro overwhelming Monet, it was also in part due to Monet's personal circumstances (her past) that caused her to suffer such mental anguish from the threat Zoro imposed on her.

    Common traits among former slaves (Hancock and Koala) include distant personalities and imprisoned emotions, and this is exactly how Monet came off during the Punk Hazard Arc, distant and emotionless. Only during the moment when Monet was at death's door did she express genuine emotion, probably because she may not have minded dying, as it would end her suffering originating from her past. Even if Doflamingo saved Monet from her life as a former slave, he had not healed her heart, illustrated by how she still appears distant and emotionless.

    The reason Monet may have been so passionate about her captain (Doflamingo) becoming the Pirate King is because the Pirate King embodies the person who stands against everything the World Government and Tenryuubito represent, and such a person is important to Monet given her circumstances (if Monet were a former [Tenryuubito] slave).

    >>How will Monet's loyalty to Doflamingo shatter?

    Rosinante had mentioned that only the inner circle members (Trebol, Diamante, Pica, Vergo and himself) knew about Doflamingo's true nature and madness. Monet may have become part of the inner circle members some time after she joined but I seriously doubt it given the nature of her role within the crew and how she had to spend time away from the rest of the crew in order to complete the missions she was given. There is also the fact that only the Donquixote Pirate members who held the Executive seats knew about true nature and madness of Doflamingo, Monet being a regular officer may not have been privy to such information. Given that Law did not know Doflamingo was a Tenryuubito until the day the Dressrosa Arc began, it suggest that Doflamingo wasn't openly expressive of his roots as a Tenryuubito. Most likely only the inner circle members knew of Doflamingo and Rosinante's past of being former Tenryuubito.

    Not knowing about the true nature and history of Doflamingo, Monet may have had a false impression on who Doflamingo was and what he represented.

    It is clear that Monet hasn't been told everything by Doflamingo, otherwise Monet would have known about Law being a former Donquixote Pirate member. Monet also hadn't been told about the purpose of SAD and most likely the existence of SMILE, otherwise once she learned that Law and Luffy entered into an alliance to target Kaidou, she would have realised that since the SMILE is being bought by Kaidou to empower his army, the SAD ingredient would be targeted, as well as the man who makes it - Caesar Clown. Monet as well didn't convey to Caesar and Vergo that Law entered into an alliance with Luffy to target Kaidou, if she did, the two of them would have without a doubt instantly realised what Law was planning. The fact that they only found out what Law's goal was on Punk Hazard the moment he entered the SAD room means that they didn't know that Law was targeting Kaidou until that point. Monet may not have been aware of the connection between SMILE and Kaidou, so she didn't see the need to convey any information beyond Law betraying Caesar by entering into an alliance with Luffy. And if Monet was aware of the importance of SAD, did she purposefully hold information back?

    It is also weird that after her encounter with Luffy, Monet went to secure the children, rather than the SAD production room, which Vergo knew to be the most important of Caesar's experiments. If Monet really was protecting Caesar's "important experiments", she should have gone to the SAD production room, the fact that she didn't implies that she may not have known about the importance of SAD. If Doflamingo has kept information from Monet, what else is he hiding from her? Does Monet know about Doflamingo's slave trading auction house he had operating two years ago?

    Monet also doesn't seem very close to the rest of the Donquixote Pirate crew. She didn't seem awfully connected with Vergo when he was there on Punk Hazard and due to her mission being away from Dressrosa, there wouldn't have been much opportunity for her to get close to the other Donquixote Pirates. Given that Monet isn't publicly known as a member of the Donquixote Pirates, which is why Law didn't initially know of Monet's affiliation with Doflamingo, it suggest that Monet must not have spent much time together with the crew to be marked as being associated with them (much like Vergo once his mission to become a marine began). It seems to me that Doflamingo is the reason for Monet being part of the Donquixote Pirates and she remains a member because shes believes in him.

    The Pirate King embodies freedom whereas the Tenryuubito seek to usurp the freedom of others. Given the importance of the Pirate King to Monet (the subject of her "final thought" as she attempted to use her life to help her captain) she likely believed that her captain was the kind of man who would genuinely stand against the Tenryuubito and the injustices the Tenryuubito effect. Monet genuinely expressed emotion (her smile) in the moment she desired her captain to become the Pirate King, the first time she had expressed such pure and heartfelt emotion. In that moment you get the feeling that you are seeing Monet's true personality show.

    Knowing the importance the concept of the Pirate King holds to Monet, it is highly likely that she was unaware of the fact that Doflamingo was a former Tenryuubito. Doflamingo's past isn't something he openly shares as not even Law knew of Doflamingo's roots, so it makes sense that Monet wouldn't have known about the origins of Doflamingo. Bellamy himself was surprised when Doflamingo revealed he was a Tenryuubito.

    Doflamingo himself hasn't yet shown any interest and desire to attain the title of "Pirate King", let alone have any pride in being a pirate. Based on the conversation Doflamingo had with Bellamy and how he expressed Bellamy always having a different objective from him - wanting to become a pirate, Doflamingo's true nature is one of someone who doesn't seem to care for such a title as "Pirate King". Even in the flashbacks, Doflamingo had shown zero interest in becoming Pirate King. If Oda really intended for Doflamingo to have such a dream, it would have been more apparent than such a dream being isolated to Monet's belief in Doflamingo. It is likely that Doflamingo used Monet's obsession with the Pirate King, by lying to her with the pretense that he in fact sought to become Pirate King, in order to motivate her to join his pirate crew and follow his orders. Doflamingo hasn't been against using others to further his own ends; Law, Bellamy and Baby 5 are testament to that. Doflamingo lying to Monet to use her wouldn't be all that out of character and surprising for him. Ultimately though, one has to seriously wonder why Monet desiring Doflamingo to be Pirate King is such an isolated event =/.

    So what happens when Monet finds out Doflamingo is a former Tenryuubito and has no desire to become Pirate King?

    Much like how Brownbeard's loyalty to Caesar shattered when he found out Caesar's true nature, Monet would also come to realise that the man she believed in never existed and the real Doflamingo was someone totally different from the man she initially committed herself to. Law's attitude towards Doflamingo also completely shifted when he seen the person Doflamingo really was. Baby 5's situation is also relevant, as despite spending at least 16 years with the Donquixote Pirates, once she realised the truth behind how the core members of the crew saw her (a "convenient woman"), her loyalty to them began to dissipate.

    If Oda has plans for Monet to find out the true nature of Doflamingo and the lies he fed her, the question becomes, how will Monet actually come to learn about the fact that Doflamingo was lying to her?

    The theory I have in mind is that currently Monet is flying towards Dressrosa and during the moment Doflamingo is facing off against Luffy and the conversation begins to center around the "Pirate King", Monet will arrive at the scene and witness Doflamingo express his lack of interest in such a title. As a result of the realisation that Doflamingo isn't the man she believed, I can see the loyalty Monet has for Doflamingo crumble away.

    With Monet's loyalty to Doflamingo shattered, the chances for Monet to travel with the Straw Hats becomes a notable possibility.

    The next issue in hand though is...

    How will Monet become relevant to the story?

    I have stated that Monet is currently heading towards Dressrosa, but there are some other events which I believe took place during the previous day on Punk Hazard that will force Monet to interact with the Straw Hat Pirates again.

    With there being evidence that Monet's heart may not have been fully stabbed and still beating, one begins to wonder whatever happened to it while it was still at the harbor of Punk Hazard?

    Given the scene in chapter 696 where the G-5 Marines separated the harbor into pirate and marine sections, it just so happens that the place where Monet's heart was left by Caesar Clown was situated on the side the Straw Hat Pirates were separated towards (interesting move by Oda). With the Straw Hats being active on that side in front of the SAD tanker setting up the dining area where the party was held, it seems likely that one of the Straw Hat members could have picked up Monet's heart and taken it with them. I could easily see Luffy becoming interested and fascinated by a beating heart and as a result taking it with him aboard the Thousand Sunny. With there being a gap in time between the events at the end of chapter 695 and the beginning of chapter 696 - we do not see the Straw Hat Pirates go back to the Thousand Sunny to get their coats, Luffy may have picked up Monet's heart and taken it aboard the Thousand Sunny in that moment.

    The scenario of Luffy saving Monet's heart would in my opinion parallel Luffy saving Robin in Alabasta. Just like how such a scene was revealed a short while prior to Robin joining, a mini-flashback at the end of the Dressrosa Arc explaining what Luffy did at the end of Punk Hazard would precede Monet beginning to travel with the Straw Hat Pirates.

    It may be nothing, but I would like to note that there are certain parallels between Monet and Robin [as villains].

    The two of them were both introduced as antagonistic looking characters in a sea of flames and both carried out a similar role in the arc they were in - assistant of the main antagonist.

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    There is also the fact that both had scenes where they noticed a main character in the arc but did nothing about it:

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    Additionally, both Robin and Monet were [brutally] stabbed by the main antagonist of the arc (Crocodile/Caesar):

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    There is still the mystery of the who threw the note to Chopper hanging in the air as it hasn't been completely clarified by Oda as to who exactly did it. Many speculate Law but if it were him and he used his Ope Ope no Mi to teleport the note to Chopper, wouldn't he need to create a "Room" first in order to have a space to utilise his ability in? And if he did create a "Room", wouldn't Caesar and/or Vergo have noticed as they were right in front of the cell Law was imprisoned in. Furthermore, how would Law have gotten a pen and paper to compose the note with? Did he have them on him or did he get them from elsewhere? Also having been bound with chains, regardless of them not being kairoseki still means that Law was bound to the point that he didn't have room to write on a piece of paper. If he used his Ope Ope no Mi to write the note, he would have needed to create a "Room", in order to motion a pen to write on paper and since one wasn't seen to have been created prior to cell rotating outside, it seems unlikely that Law would have been the one to have written the note. And seeing how the note was thrown at Chopper and not teleported to his location (which Law would have done), I am doubtful as to whether it was really Law who threw the note.

    With Chopper standing in reverse hiding position behind a wall, he could have been spotted if someone looked in the direction he was located towards. I believe Monet may have noticed him and moved towards her workstation to get her pen and paper. Given that Monet isn't shown in the scene when the note is thrown at Chopper, possibly intentional by Oda, I find it possible that Monet was the one who composed the note and threw it towards Chopper.

    Similar to how Robin helped Luffy because she wanted to learn more about the "D"'s, you could stretch the interpretation of Monet's actions and say she may have helped Chopper so that he could have helped the children (regardless of whether she knew he was a doctor or not). I get that Monet tried to bite Chopper later on, but seeing the children in pain, Monet may have thought the Straw Hat Pirates had done something to them, especially if she didn't understand the full effects of the NHC10 drug and the withdrawal symptoms that occurs. Once Chopper mentioned to Monet that the children asked them for help out of their own free will, Monet didn't make any more moves to stop them escaping to chase after the kids, she changed her focus to Zoro.

    Oda may have left the true identity of the person who threw the note to Chopper a mystery on purpose just so he could reveal it at a later time.

    What will Monet's role in the story be?

    If Monet really is an astronomer, we may very well get an arc/saga centered around the moons and space in the future. How exciting would it be to see the Straw Hat Pirates sail across the "Black Sea" towards one of the moons of the One Piece world?

    The fact that Oda had revealed in the Enel's Great Space Operation cover story that there are Space Pirates and Space Pirate ships within the One Piece universe, the possibility of space being sailed upon does exist. Since a precedent has been set, it is possible for the Straw Hat Pirates to "sail" in space like the Space Pirates do.

    There is a certain reason for why I believe Monet may have knowledge on astronomy - the reference Oda placed in chapter 666 of Monet reading a book with the title beginning with the letters "ASTRO" (middle left panel). There aren't many words that begin with "ASTRO" that a book could be titled after, and the word that would currently be the most relevant in the story of One Piece is "Astronomy" as Oda himself has made space relevant to the story of One Piece. It also seems likely that a role such as "astronomer" may become relevant to the Straw Hat Pirates adventure if Oda is planning to have them travel to space and include more nakama in the crew. In this case, Monet's knowledge on space may become critical in the Straw Hat Pirates future adventures.

    Additionally there is a second book which Monet reads with a word comprising the letters "CLIP" (bottom middle panel of Monet). If Astronomy is the subject Monet was reading about, the title of this book could be "ECLIPSE", which is also relevant to space and the moons.

    Allowing astronomy to become relevant in the story of One Piece could help in understanding the connection between the civilisations that came from the moon to the One Piece world and their connection to the ancient civilisation that was dominant in the One Piece world over 900 years ago (before the Void Century). Information concerning the "D"'s may also become fleshed out with exposure to the moons and the history surrounding the ancient civilisations.

    The Tenryuubito wearing garments that look like a "spacesuit" makes one tempted to reach the conclusion that space is in some manner or form relevant and/or connected with the Tenryuubito and the history of the Twenty Kings. The name the leaders of the World Government go by also seems to suggest some form of relation to space and astronomy - the Gorosei (Five Elder Stars).

    Also with Monet's dream centering around the Pirate King, astronomy may be relevant in locating Raftel, as from Roger's comment to Whitebeard, getting to Raftel doesn't seem as simple as just sailing towards the end of the Grand Line. The fact that Oda made the Pirate King such an important concept to Monet that her seemingly final thoughts were about it, adds to the support of Monet becoming a Straw Hat nakama as her dream is apparently deeply connected with the Pirate King, which is exactly what Luffy dreams to become.

    After the events on Dressrosa, Monet will end up traveling with Luffy and Co. in order to retrieve her heart from the Thousand Sunny. During that journey Monet may begin to see the passion Luffy has towards the dream of becoming Pirate King and subsequently find herself opening up to him to the point of wanting to travel with the Straw Hat Pirates. And with Monet traveling with the Straw Hats an opportunity for her to finally begin to heal (like Nami and Robin) may be created. Luffy would definitely love Monet once he finds out she is a Yuki-Onna (snow-woman), if he doesn't know already.

    Given time, Monet could follow similar developments to Nami and Robin and want to join the crew permanently. Being a former [Tenryuubito] slave (if the theory is right) would also allow for a further story centering around Monet to unravel in the future, like what happened with Nami and Robin. With the Tenryuubito seemingly playing a big part in how the politics of nations run - nations sending a Tenjoukin (Heavenly Tribute) to the Tenryuubito - and with the focus of nations and their structure hinted at changing with the upcoming Reverie, it would be interesting if Luffy had a reason to directly go against the Tenryuubito in the New World (that reason being connected with Monet and her past).

    Luffy's love for snow:

    There is also the fact that one of the two things Luffy currently doesn't have (well three if you include meat when it runs out) which he has repeatedly shown excitement for throughout One Piece is snow (the other being a giant [bronze] statue). Generally whatever Luffy has shown repeated interest in and excitement for throughout the series, he has got; such as beams, a robot, a skeleton, and a musician.

    Luffy had began to illustrate his excitement over snow from chapter 106 when he was first seen building a snowman (after the crew set-off from Reverse Mountain):

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    Just before the crew reached Little Garden, Luffy wonders if it will snow again (chapter 115):

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    Luffy’s excitement over snow brings him to tears as the crew reaches Drum Island in chapter 132:

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    In the very next chapter, Luffy and Usopp are shown wasting no time making new snowman/monsters:

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    After Luffy triumphants over Crocodile and helps Vivi save Alabasta, Luffy is shown thinking about snow again once they depart (chapter 218):

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    Later in the story, Luffy displayed his excitement for snow the moment he realised that Punk Hazard had a snow side (chapter 657) and when he attempted to cross the lake:

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    For Oda to repeatedly make Luffy express how much he loves snow throughout the One Piece manga, and then to have a character who is able to control snow show up only to have them “die” in the same arc, I honestly don’t believe Oda would do such a thing. There must be more Oda has planned for Monet seeing that she is a Devil Fruit user who can control snow, something which Luffy loves a lot. Luffy when encountering Monet was likely too tunnel-visioned (being focused on Caesar) and probably didn't realise that Monet was a snow user. If Oda wanted, he could so easily have Luffy invite/accept Monet into the crew.

    Other Possible Hints:

    It may be meaningless, but I find it interesting and note-worthy that there is an astronomical telescope in the Thousand Sunny's Crows Nest:

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    For what purpose does the astronomical telescope serve at moment in the Straw Hat crew? I doubt it would be used for scouting when there are binoculars available. It may be used for star-gazing by the members merely because some have interest in space, but if space does become relevant to the Straw Hats adventure in the future and they gain a nakama who is an astronomer (Monet), I can certainly see that astronomical telescope being put to serious use.

    Another note-worthy point is the mystery surrounding the sea/snow rabbits that appeared in the sea around the Thousand Sunny in chapter 700 when the Thousand Sunny was traveling towards Dressrosa. Those sea/snow rabbits bear a ridiculously uncanny resemblance to the snow rabbits which Monet creates with her Yuki Yuki no Mi. Is it coincidence or intentional by Oda? The anime did make them out to be Sea Lapahns, but seeing as they weren't in the manga and were an original addition to the One Piece world creatures by the anime, I won't take that anime filler arc seriously.

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    The fact that Oda in the volume 71 SBS makes note of that scene from chapter 700 but avoids explaining what exactly they were/are has me believing that Oda was teasing us with that comment and was intentional in making the sea/snow rabbits resemble Monet's Snow Rabbit attack.

    It could be nothing, but the way Oda completely avoided addressing the scene about the sea/snow rabbits in the ocean yet chose that particular question to include in the SBS of the volume has me wondering whether Oda wanted to hint towards something.

    Final thoughts:

    Anyway, I can see much appeal to Monet's character; such as her playful personality, her really unique design, her amusing characteristics, an interesting fighting style (utilising unique weapons) and an overall mystery surrounding her character. To me, Monet has to be one of the most uniquely designed female characters in One Piece, especially seeing that her Harpy form likely didn't come about through natural means (meaning Monet may be the only harpy in the series). Her epithet being a Yuki-Onna is also incredibly fitting and cool for her Logia ability, which has been highlighted quite comprehensively in the short time she was focused on. You can tell Oda put a lot of thought into her character, especially with her abilities and differentiating them from the Hie Hie no Mi abilities.

    Monet already shares the unique design and quirky personality qualities the other Straw Hats share, so there are some factors that support her being a potential Straw Hat nakama. Plus Luffy absolutely loves snow.

    Ultimately though, the key questions become:
    • Will space and the moons be relevant to the Straw Hat Pirates adventure?
    • If so, will they end up traveling to space and the moons?
    • If yes, would the Straw Hat Pirates need an astronomer?
    • Is Monet an astronomer?
    • If yes, would Monet become the astronomer the Straw Hats require for their adventure?
    • Is Monet a former Tenryuubito slave?
    This theory is based on a lot of speculation, but I just can't help but feel that there really is something about Monet.

    Thank you for reading!
     
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    @Tango this guy posted it first hahaha :p i had the same thought with him.. well specially on the part of monet being alive..

    tho i realized that monet is interested to astronomy.. never saw the possibility that she can be an sh.. but like the idea

    @Dragon-Fist Sabo we are just talking bout this earlier hahaha
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    i see so law's power saved the heart of monet.. since that material ceasar used didnt pierced through the block and just grazed the side.. ok hmmm.. i thought about it as well but one thing, what about the blood
    as u ccan see theres a blood on that "block of flesh" http://img.*******/comics/2012/12/30/o/read50e02c2685ff9/img000012.png
     
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    Woah @walreyn thanks for tagging me, i will read it latter and give my opinion, need to sleep first :zzz:
     
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    I will read this later...but for me at least ..if one piece characters can survive a stab through the heart...that's kinda BS-ity....
     
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    All great points, man I'm swayed, I want to see more of her now all of a sudden. Was happy beforehand but you're right, it does feel very incomplete, and overall she's not more villainous than Robin, Ms All Sunday who's a great character now. I'm just not sure what could cause her to change loyalties- maybe hanging out with the Strawhats would be enough once she was on the ship, and Robin and Franky were both villains when first introduced, so yeah, looks cool and tbh if the Strawhats need another girl member I'd pick her over Viola or Rebecca.
     
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    This was a wonderful read, I applaud you! This is one of the main reasons I have joined OJ, to read interesting theories like these!

    You have definitely made some interesting connections that might have to do with Monet and astronomy.

    I didn't realize until now that you said that the Tenryuubito's suits look like spacesuits with those bubbles. Same about the Gorosei.
    Given that, I think a space related arc is very plausible, not only through Enel's cover story. There was a theory that showed a similar pattern to arcs given to how the SHs traveled, like Alabasta/Dressrosa. We have had an arc where the SHs flew to the sky, so I think there must be an arc where they fly to space. That would be lovely, as I am personally interested in stars, planets and astronomy overall :)

    As for Monet, I like your description about her, seems like it would be a waste to just kill her off given how much thought Oda put in her. The way you described her shows how she could very well fit in with the SHs and I like it! We already have some "ridiculous, but awesome" members (reindeer, Cyborg, skeleton), and Monet as a harpy would very well fit in with them! I understand Luffy's excitement about snow personally, because I feel the same about it! If Monet would create snow around me all the time, I would be the happiest person on earth! :>
    Have you also thought about how she might be related to travelling with Law along? A lot of people assume that Law and the Heart Pirates will travel on with SHs, given how Law said that the only way to survive in the New World is through alliances or joining a Yonkou. However, I find it hardly believable though that Law would let a woman join, because his crew would get absolutely sidetracked (remember when they were in Amazon Lilly? Every crew member except for Bepo got so excited about the pretty ladies)...
     
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    Great read! Hope it comes to this :)
     
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    Damn... This is long.. It was a interesting read nonetheless.
     
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    Very nice read my friend. I can really get behind this idea. I never even tickled the thought that Monet may still be alive, let alone join the Straw Hats. You've convinced me that she is alive, but also she might join the Strawhats. Bravo my friend, bravo.
     
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    Easiest explanation is because flesh bleeds when it is cut. Law not only cut out Monet's heart but the flesh surrounding it - hence the gaping hole in her chest. What Caesar managed to graze and injure was not Monet's heart but the flesh that surrounds it.

    When looking at that page and the panel in chapter 695 together you realise that Oda never showed Caesar fully stab Monet's heart. It is just the angle Oda used to structure Monet's heart being stabbed was an incredibly deceptive one, most likely intentional by Oda to get the readers to believe one thing.
     
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    @Syphin nice writings! :yaaa:

    Let's say that Monet survived.

    She survived without her heart on her. If I'm not mistaken Ceasar stabbed her heart on a big ship that was used for carrying the children.
    So what about her heart whereabout now?
     
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    He addressed it, but yeah, it was a long read. His theory was Luffy spotted it "offscreen" must've gone, "Oh, cool, I'm taking this!" and just carried her heart off. Let's face it, it's not out of the question for Luffy by any measure!
     
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    Brilliant theory!!! :) You had me well convinced. I agree with you that Monet did not die but I never noticed that she was reading a book on astronomy. :eek: I forgot that Luffy loves snow. :)

    Since Monet is a logia maybe the knife just passed through the heart and Ceaser does not has haki either. But this statement does not explain the blood. I guess we have to wait to see what will Oda do.
     
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    Her heart was bleeding when Caesar stabbed it...


    http://img.*******/comics/2014/09/16/o/read54179c3e19257/img000013.png




    And if she would be alive, she would be in Dressrosa already on Doflamingo's side. And if she would be alive, she would have pressed that damn button already lol!
     
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    but didn't the thing caesar used to stab monet's heart pierced through not just the "flesh" but also the heart ? hence the blood?
     
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    The blood could have been from the flesh surrounding the heart and not from the heart itself.

    And Monet not being in Dressrosa a day after the events on Punk Hazard could easily be explained with her being unconscious for a large portion of the day due to the injuries she had suffered in the battle with Zoro and Tashigi. For all we know she could have woken up earlier in the present day of One Piece and currently be flying towards Dressrosa.

    As for why Monet didn't press the button to activate Caesar's chemical weapon, well after Caesar applied force to her heart, she was knocked unconscious and as such had no opportunity to activate the switch. Law also coughed up blood and got knocked unconscious when Caesar applied force to his heart, so regardless of actual physical damage to the heart, a person can be knocked unconscious with just force.

    With the Straw Hats and Law currently off Punk Hazard, there would be no point in pressing the button to activate Caesar's chemical weapon. Monet most likely knew this when she awoke as she was aware she was knocked unconscious - she looked at her missing heart before passing out.

    Based on the way Oda illustrated the location of the weapon Caesar used after he fell unconscious in chapter 695 (away from the heart), it is incredibly uncertain to conclude that Caesar actually managed to pierce beyond the flesh surrounding the heart and actually hit the heart.

    All we see in chapter 694 is Caesar managing to penetrate the "block of flesh" containing Monet's heart, which is why there is blood, because flesh does bleed when it is cut. If Caesar was able to penetrate beyond the flesh and actually hit the heart, the weapon he used wouldn't have been illustrated face-up in the ground away from the heart, it would have pierced deep enough to remain lodged in the "block of flesh".

    Clearly as we can see in chapter 695, Oda illustrated that differently, heavily implying that the majority of the force in Caesar's strike was taken by the ground (keeping it face-up) and not Monet's heart.

    When determining whether Monet is really dead or not, you have to ask yourself, why would Oda illustrate the scene in chapter 695 the way he did if he intended Monet to die? Why leave open the possibility of Monet being alive?
     
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    Well you had me somehow convinced with your explanation on how Oda illustrated the scene, I do believe that if that the heart was pierced it should've been illustrated differently just like what you have said.
     
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    Very good
    I like detailed theories like this but In my opinion I want her to be dead not because I dislike her but because that death scene was awesome and if she's still alive then that will take away from the scene
     
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    That is true though.
     
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    Nice compilation of all pro-Monet theories! I would love the female logia to join aswell. :cool:

    The only problem is her actions in PH, and how redeemable she might be.

    Poisoning kids knowing they would die isn't very Strawhat like, maybe she was under some mind control from Doffy (if his powers can do so), the members under the executives don't look as bad as the others, and she did tell Luffy Dofla would kill her if she failed, idk though.

    Any chance Kuzan saved her? Both having similar powers and knowledge.
     
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