Discussion Revolution At Goldy Pond - Destined To Fail?

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  1. Ainu

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    The plan regarding the uprising at Goldy Point was set in motion in chapter 73.
    Though despite everything being ready, with the plan now even being adjusted to consider Emma, do the chances not seem to be that great.​

    Current Situation
    The children at Goldy Pond are armed. Though their weapons were given to them by their hunters to make the hunt more fun. So this isn't going to work as a surprise against the demons. Not to mention that the group around Lucas and Oliver have yet to actually kill a demon, despite their weaponry; they're currentely even thinking that a demon can't be killed.
    Emma's new knowledge about a demon's eyes being their weakness might be helpful here, but it is questionable how well attacks against their weakpoints can be executed with the people they have at hand.
    Especially when we talk about veterans like Lewis. Who, additionally, has a personal game against Emma and Lucas, two key players of the childrens side.

    Possible Aftermath
    Even if an initial revolt might work, the aftermath of it would be fatal.
    Lord Bayon should've more than enough means to crush such a revolution, if he wanted to, even if he has to keeps things secret to a certain degree and let's not forget Peter Radri.
    Radri and Bayon have a connection, Peter being implied to be the person who handed Goldy Pond over to Bayon.
    So if Radri learns about this, which isn't completely unlikely, then him helping Bayon to surpress the children would be a very likey scenario, considering that Peter works to maintain the peace between humans and demons and this being something that threatens mentioned peace. Not to mention that Radri has his own facilty, namely Lambda, in the demon world and could easily give them orders to support Grand Valley.

    So even if the initial revolt works, the chances for a big comeback from the demon side is possible.

    Wildcards
    We still have Ray and Mister outside Goldy Pond, but two additional people are most likely not going to cut it, unless the unknowingly bring wild demons with them, turning the entire thing into a 3 way battle that would increase the casualties of the Bayon/Grand Valley side.
    Though it is questionable how likely this is and how much Ray and Mister can actually do in this scenario.

    The new information provided by the newly found pen cap might help in the end, though how much is questionable, as we do not know what exactly the new data told Lucas and Emma. If it is only information about the world and not about how to fight demons, then it might not be hepful at all.



    What do you think, how will the events play out?

    While we do not know the plan does the situation itself appear to be rather dire, if the current situation and possible future outcomes are put into consideration.​
     
  2. Ryuudo

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    Looks like you're right - if just the kids themselves revolt, it's likely to fail. But we have Ray and "Lucas' best friend" waiting in the wings for an opportunity to swoop in. I bet they'll be instrumental in either saving the kids or turning the tables on the demons.
     
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    the problem not only Goldy pond, even in forest it full beast demon, not to say the Demon also have army,,
    what make it stupid its they want revange while they can escape.
    let see how far the kids can survive, doubt Jump will really go to dark plot.
     
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    Lucas friend will work wonders against the regular demons, that is for sure. Oliver already told us that. Though we also know that he couldn't do anything against Lewis in the past.
    It could certainly be that he can take Lewis on, now that he is older, but I wouldn't be too sure about that, considering that we do not know if he actually improved over the years, except for getting an adult body.
    Though like already mentioned, even assuming that they're able to defend against the poachers and are able to kill them all, who knows what's to come. I doubt that a second offense, one support by Bayon and possible Peter, would be on the same, small scale as this one is about to go down.

    I mean there goal is to secure Goldy Pond as a place to life at.
    Bayon makes money out of it by providing a hunting ground for, apparentely, wealthy demons.
    That's two interests clashing there and Bayon certainly has the better cards at hand.
    Staying there and getting revenge is a much easier than storming a plantation, something build like a fortress, and getting out of the demon part of the world. Them securing Goldy Pond and trying to hold it as a place to live gives them a much better chances to survive. So it's not really that stupid.
     
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    There is another element that is importatnt - Levis way of thinking. He wants equal term hunt, but is confident that kids can't do much damage to him. That's why we should exclude outside intervention. He wouldn't agree with Bayron to ask for reinformences. And he seems to be someone to be reckoned with, add that creepy smile.

    The dowfall of demons can be the fact that they understimate kids, so even with basic knowledge of how to handle weapon and fight demons, they can pose a threat.

    Still I think that even with objective of retaking Goldy Point secured, many will die.
     
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    Sounds like a good way to lose. Underestimate the simpleness of the human mind... and its tenacity too.
     
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  7. Ainu

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    That's not thinking far enough though.

    Like mentioned in the opening post, even if the first stage of the revoultion is going to go well and the children actually manage to kill every single poucher around, including Lewis, Bayon is still around and holds authority over Goldy Pond and Peter Radri is around too and will most likely do everything to prevent that humans capable of dealing with demons, no matter the age, get a foothold in the demon world. That was his point for giving Bayon Goldy Pond to begin with.

    Though even expecting reinforcements now doesn't add up.
    We don't know if any of the poachers has a means to communicate with Bayon now and they currentely have no reason to call for help. Who knows of Bayon could even react fast enough to send help against the initial revolt.

    So Lewis not wanting any help there, even if it means his death (something that certainly appears to be in character), or not isn't really the point. The point is that, even if the revolt works, that they're far, far from over with all of this.
    Thus was the point I made regarding this titled "Possible Aftermath".
     
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    Why do you this confidiently mention Ratri. Lambda might be far away, he might be in Lambda, he might be in human world, there isn't any mention of him still holding interest in this place. His conversation with Bayron was 15 years ago, why would he oversee it still? I can see him learning about what happened there but later on. Why would Bayron ask a human for help - human who has no power greater than demons?
    I believe including Ratri in this situation can be considered far fetched.
     
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    We don't know where he is, you're right and I personally belief that he is currentely in the human world.
    Then again is he a very important player here and I include him like this because he doesn't appear to be a person who likes to have loose ends.
    Him keeping tabs on something that is possible to break the promise between humans and demons (Goldy Pond) is something that thus appears likely, too. That alone should be enough for him to hold interest.
    Bayron doesn't even need to ask, I can see Peter acting on his own, if he deems necessary; he was a person to betray (implied to have killed) his own brother to keep the promise safe. That's going far enough to make the assumption that he still cares.
    Not to mention that he and Bayron might have a personal connection, if Bayron got Goldy Pond for more reasons than Grand Valley being the closest plantation. Something that's also only an assumption.
     
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  10. B Rabbit

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    They'll lose, and in a simple written trap to. The mangaka really wants us to believe that they will win out and survive. However for a survival horror like this, the good guys can't have a single win. Even if they do the protagonist group need some casualties.
     
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    They will loose mostly but Lewis will survive after beeing injured. And the hunt will continue. The gold pond group will be split into two the half without Emma will meet up with ray and mister and go back to the bunker. Emma and her group will head on to next location being chased by Lewis
     
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