Powers & Abilities Potentially the main reason for Kaido being the strongest in One Piece

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Kaido is the strongest mainly because of his toughness

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  1. Veku

    Veku

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    Kaido's main strength
    Kaido has been decleared as strongest creature,
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    and alongside that it was said that every attempt to kill him failed
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    Now in chapter 532 when Luffy and Mr2 arrived at level 3 they engaged and defeated the Minotauros, which came back in chapter 544, when Luffy was about to break out of Impel down. Crocodile commented about his awakening
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    As we know, Luffy had to rest after he faced Magellan, so at least few hours must have passed between the Minotauros defeat and it's comeback.
    Kaido is called the king of the beasts[​IMG] so it's extremely likely that he's a Zoan user , unless he's some kind of animal/mythical creature and the difference between him and the Impel Down beasts are like heaven and earth, also it's said in a 1v1 always bet on Kaido[​IMG] . Could that statement mainly come from the notion that Kaido's almost always get's up no matter how often he get's taken down similar to he Minotauros, just to a waaaaaaay greater extend and not because of his combat ability? Even Big Mom called him a "thing"[​IMG] , almost as if he's not human. Don't get me wrong, the way he's portrayed, he's still a beast and up there with other top tiers, but he might not stand above them because of his combat ability.
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    BOCCHI Wanted! Wanted

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    Well, his combat abilities should be very high to rival other top tiers, but yeah his greatest power most likely be what you think about him always getting back up no matter how much he gets hit for the most part.
     
  3. Kejon

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    Well you're right he might be unbeatable but that doesn't mean he can beat everyone. It just means he always comes back. I think he is like this because he doesn't have a soul but still somehow lives. His strength alone of course is still tremendous.
     
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    BOCCHI Wanted! Wanted

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    The point of him being the strongest is to confirm he is currently stronger than everyone individually, but yeah I agree with the rest
     
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    Its a one piece world title.
     
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    I'm not sure why you are trying to say mate...
     
  7. comrade

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    Toughness makes up majority of Big Moms strength. Kaido should be even tougher. And his physical power should be considerably higher given that he has probably the strongest Zoan.
     
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    Kaido is not as tough as Big Mom. It is the reason why Oda made him the first Top Tier to fall. He is the easiest Top Tier to beat. His forte is physical Strength which luffy excels at.
     
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    Well I'd say Kaido is physically stronger than BM but BM has her homies and a lot of hax.
     
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    Kaido jumps from 10km and has a headache. When BM's castle collapses, BM screams while falling down and Zeus (BM's soul) feels the need to safe her. And we talk about base Kaido. He is probably an awakened Zoan user of the strongest Zoan.
     
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    I think being "the strongest creature" means that Kaido as a specimen, naturally has the highest physical attributes compared to any race or species in the world, but that doesn't necessarily mean he is unbeatable.
     
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    Kaido and Big Mom will both be falling at about the same time... That is most likely the reason Oda has set it up to bring Big Mom to Wano...

    And it's the easiest way to completely shatter the balance of power in the World... Two Yonkos fall at once, and the Shichibukai system gets abolished.....
     
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    Big Mom is UNBEATABLE, she is a monster that cannot be beaten. She has Top Tier Physcial Streght and Durability plus hax which is why Roger ran from her. Luffy will never face her, that Oda has made clear.
     
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    Luffy will definitely beat her like he said but after he beats Kaido.
     
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    Roger never ran from her.... That misconception comes from a bad translation.... It was never stated anywhere in the manga....

    And Oda made it extremely clear that Big Mom was coming to Wano...
     
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    This is what Big Mom herself said about Kaido. :yaaa:
    Which is useless. Not even Jinbe was scared.
    No info about Roger's age and intention. We know Roger tied with Primebeard. And you are not saying Big Mom > Primebeard right?
     
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    More or less agree with you.
    Imo, the Yonkou have some equivalent stats (fighting prowess, haki, speed, strength, etc...) but some stand out thanks to 1 specific stat.
    Kaidou for instance would be his durability (and maybe his resilience) which allows him, more often than not, be the last to fall in a fight (hence the "in a 1 vs 1, always bet on Kaidou).

    Big Mom has durability and strength too but I think she stands out thanks to her versatility.

    Shanks maybe with his Haki (specifically CoA and CoO)

    Prime Whitebeard was likely CoA, CoO, strength and Devil Fruit and

    Blackbeard, it's thanks to Whitebeard's power and the Yami Yami no mi.
     
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    Her hax won't work
    Kaido's base durability is more impressive by feats
    And Kaido, being a brute, will also have top tier Physical strength
    Roger running from her was a mistranslation
    BM is coming to Wano, she is going down or her appearance is pointless.

    Big Mom isn't unbeatable, it is Kaido who holds that hype, the manga is kinda against you lol
     
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    Her hax for the most part isn't doing much, but she should be able to rival him in some way either her awakening does a good job in that plus physical strength or the other way around...
     
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    Wouldn't that defeat the purpose of the Gorosei asking Im whom to kill when Im is in doubt whether to choose Luffy or BB ? And who will kill them ?
     
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