Discussion Ou Sen is an Strategical/Instinctual General Hybrid

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  1. KakumeikaPeri

    KakumeikaPeri

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    It has pretty much been confirmed since his introduction that Ou Sen is a Genius Strategist in warfare thus making him a General of the Strategical type but is that all there is to the man known as Ou Sen.

    Thoroughly reading the series, I've been able to pick up some little hints as to why I think he might be of the Instinctual type too

    First of all to understand;
    Instinctual Generals use their intuition to decide the best course of action on the battlefield. In a way they also have a sort of foresight about the flow of events and how to act accordingly to counter thus making them able to 'notice' things before anyone else

    The first instance I saw this was in the coalition war when after toying with and making an utter fool of Ordo, Ousen was able to 'predict' Karin's detachment nearly opening the gates of Kankoku pass, he would then show up from nowhere in the nick of time when all was lost to smite and utterly obliterate them much to everyone's awe and bewilderment

    Apart from when one of his vassals pointed out that Ousen's prediction had never been wrong during the Chiyoyou campaign (which would have been right if not for Ouhon's interference), there has also been other instances like;
    - Predicting that during the remainder of the Western Zhao campaign, the right wing of the shukai plains is going to be the one "lighting a fire" (which is a phrase almost exclusive to Instinctual Generals) from that day onwards
    - Foreseeing that Riboku was going to send Gyou'un to the right wing (still speculative) telling shin that their true battlefield has finally arrived knowing that this is going to be their (Hi shin unit) most difficult obstacle yet.

    Note: Riboku has been seen leaving his HQ throughout the current arc to help Zhao recover from the precarious situations of Ousen's ploys while Ousen's been in his HQ analysing which has led me to believe that everything has been envisioned by him.

    This is all speculation of course, thoughts?
    --- Double Post Merged, May 25, 2018, Original Post Date: May 25, 2018 ---
    Just saw the title now, pardon my grammar! :smuggrin:
     
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  2. uchihasasuke161

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    First Ou Sen is not a strategic/instinctual hybrid like Ren Pa, he is simply a Strategical genius like Ri Boku.

    Ou Sen never predicted Karin detachment, go back and chapter 319, Shou bun kun explains it fully, Mou bu was the spear to destroy the Chu army and then have his army interfere with the two battlegrounds opposite to it (Zhao and Wei/Han). While Ou sen was the shield to protect Kan koku pass should it ever come under any sort of predicament. basically regardless of who managed to sneak behind kankoku pass Ou Sen was always going to have to be the one to protect it. and he could only do this since Ordo wasnt good enough to keep him and his army fully engaged in battle.

    during the chiyoyou campaign, both Qin and Wei were about evenly matched in soldiers until the fire dragons entered the battlefield with extra 60,000 soldiers, Ou Sen was stationed to Qin's northern borders to prevent a Zhao invasion, this meant he had a considerable amount of men under him (at least 50,000 plus), it doesn't take a genius to realize that he was one of the three candidates that Tou would request reinforcements from, the other being Mou bu and Kan ki.

    lightning a fire is not a phrase only instinctual general use, yes i agree that one of the most powerful instinctual great general in this series often used this term to describe/explain the state of battle, however the phrase just generally means the location were the main action is going down the most. and in the Shukai plains it was obvious after what happened on the left on the first day that the second day was going to be the right turn to shine. Mou Ten, Ma kou, Ki Sui, Ba Tei , Ri Boku in day 1 were the main contributors to the battlefield with Shin, Kyou Kai, Riku Sen contributing to the action meaning day 2 was going to focus on Ou Hon, Akou, Ba Nan Ji, Gaku Ei and Chou ga ryuu, you have to remember Hara needs to develp his characters and this is still a story.

    Ri Boku sending Gyou'un to the right wing on the third day had nothing to do with Ou Sen's instinct, Ou Hon and Akou on the night on the second day already explained that Ri Boku was going to make his move (meaning sending reinforcements from the center to the right since Zhao had the superiority in numbers even before this war started.). and there were only two people who commanded enough soldiers in the center besides riboku(Gyou'un and Kin Mou). even if Ri Boku had sent Kin Mou, Ou Sen would still have to send the Hi Shin Unit to the right to even out the scale.

    If Ri Boku did not send reinforcements from the center to the right, Qin would have rode on the momentum with the high morale they had from the second day and completely decimated the the right wing (zhao left) on the third day. Ri Boku could prevent this simply by sending reinforcement of about 10, 000 soldiers and the two men he had available were generals of high caliber with Gyou'un being a generals of the highest caliber of general (inhuman strength and experience), like i said it doesn't take a genius to know who he needed to send to the right.
    one of the former Three Great Heavens right hand man or his former deputy (Kei Sha) left hand man.

    Ri Boku leaving his post and helping Zhao escape from precarious situations of Ou Sen's ploys? isn't that what the Commander-in-chief of an army is meant to do? or do you expect him to just sit back and watch his army suffer defeat?

    and finally i will end it here by saying OU SEN is not an Instinctual or Strategic/Instinctual hybrid General, but simply a STRATEGICAL GENIUS like our main PAIN IN THE ASS RI BOKU of the Three Great Heavens.

    PS sorry for my grammar and rudeness.
     
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  3. Shizzy

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    Ousen Seems Like A Guy with a plan kinda Guy..

    All Day Everyday..

    Probably Has More IQ than Riboku... But Just by a small Margin
     
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    Reebok's intelligence level is 100 while Ousen's is 97.
     
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    Ousen is Strategical General, not an Instinctual ones.
     
  6. KakumeikaPeri

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    Let's just agree to disagree!
     
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