OP Episode 864 - Clashing at Last – The Emperor vs. The Straw Hat Crew

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  1. RobertoTheOharaSurvivor

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    One Piece Episode 864
    Title: " Clashing at Last – The Emperor vs. The Straw Hat Crew "
    [Tsui ni Gekitotsu - Yonkō tai Mugiwara no Ichimi]
    「遂に激突 四皇VS麦わらの一味」
    Screenplay: 「中山智博」 Tomohiro Nakayama
    Episode director: 「中島豊」 Yutaka Nakashima
    Storyboard: 「中島豊」 Yutaka Nakashima
    Animation director:
    「北崎正浩」 Masahiro Kitazaki
    Opening [21] - Super Powers | V6

     
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  2. Raven

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    Loved the parts on the sunny with Jinbe, Nami, Brook and Chopper!!!! :<3::<3::eek::eek:
     
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    Some fun filler moves from Katakuri. They make some sense for him to have, given what we see that he can do later on.

    I feel like the "Big Mom destroying the ship" part could've allowed for a bit more visible destruction. In particular, the Manga panel for when she goes "just try and stop me!" before slicing into the cabin where Carrot is asleep makes it look like the room was almost cleaved cleanly in two, which seems lessened in the anime.

    Jinbei was cool and the Sea current shoulder throw was even cooler then I'd imagined it, though I feel like Vagabond-Fist could've been allowed to have more effects to it. Big Mom was wet for instance, so watching all the drops of water wiz off of her as they were forcibly pushed away by Jinbei's technique (since Fishman-Karate manipulates water) would've done more to sell just how powerful the technique was.

    Overall though, a 9/10 episode at least.
     
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    That jinbe hype tho....:steef:
     
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    Surely a powerful attack. But that just goes to show how powerful Sanji's Hell Memories was. Which was clearly shown superior to Jinbe's Vagabond drill in Fishman Island. [​IMG]
     
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    that Jinbe attack animation on BM was pretty damn cool
     
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    Far out we got a mad animation for Vagabond Drill but the animation for HM was utter trash. Also nice to seek Katakuri make a gatling gun out of Mochi. Maybe Luffy's awakening will deal with shapeshifting.
     
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    Funny how my comment wasn't about that, but now you've made it about that.

    Jinbei > Sanji. Vagabond Drill sent one of the largest characters in the series flying almost a kilometer into the air. Hell Memories merely set him on fire on top of that.
     
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    What? Merely Set him on fire. Lol he fried him while Vagabond drill barely managed to Make Wadatsumi spit out blood. Get your damn facts right.

    Also how does sending someone up mean your attack is stronger? Lol

    There are many different factors that apply while judging an attack. You just made some bs up by saying "Jinbe's attack sent Wadatsumi up into the air(even though it did jack shit to him because Wadatsumi was speaking perfectly well after that attack) that is why it is stronger than HM(Which not only Knocked out Wadatsumi, but also Burned his entire body to the crisp).

    - DC
    - AOE
    -Lethality


    There is a reason why Oda showed Sanji's attack as the finisher. It was clearly superior whether you like it or not.


    Btw Sanji has been sending huge objects up into the air effortlessly since early grand line days.
    [​IMG]

    Sending a large thing up 100 meters into the air with an attack that isn't even capable of doing much damage except making it spit out a bit of blood doesn't make the attack stronger than an attack which not only Burned it but also KO'ed it.


    HM Merely set him on fire my ass. For your kind information, HM KO'ed the living sh*t out of him while Vagabond drill barely made him spit out a few drops of blood.


    On a side note -

    [​IMG]

    Wadatsumi being clearly fine after Vagabond Drill just shows how inaffective it was against him. Lol.
     
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  10. SanjiKun

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    Imagine comparing Hell Memories to a move that sent a 20 Ton Yonko flying.
     
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    My god. You think Wadatsumi is smaller and lighter than big Mom. How cute
     
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    I didn't realize Wadatsumi was a Yonko with impenetrable skin.
     
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    What does size got to do with being a Yonko. Jinbe used to same attack against both big Mom and Wadatsumi. And it clearly didn't work on any. Excluding sending them both flying a couple of meters.
     
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    Except the reason he went a kilometre in the air is because he blew out air not because Jinbei punched him.
     
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    Did you ever care to notice how skinny big Mom had gotten? Heck it was highlighted like 10 times
     
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    Do you know what impenetrable means? If you think Sanji can actually send Big Mom flying, you better re-evaluate your life.
     
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    Honestly HM is equal to Vagabond Drill. Oda showed both Sanji and Jimbei taking out the same enemy using their ultimate attacks. However with Sanji's incoming powerup and Jimbei unlikely to be in Wano, Oda is going to improve Sanji even further. I think Oda had both Sanji and Jinbei take out Wadatsumi to show that they were around the same power level and now with Sanji likely to take on QUEEN it is only going to get further away. Sanji will be comfortably above Jimbei after this arc.
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    Yeah I think he can. HM is equal to Vagabond Drill otherwise Oda wouldn't have shown it together. And if Jimbei is able to make her fly Sanji should as well. There is no need for anyone to reevaluate their life.
     
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    How sad a life you must be living to re-evaluate lives based on your understanding of a fictional character.

    Also I clearly understand what impenetrable means. And big Mom was highlighted multiple times on the fact that she had gotten "Skinny" and "Weak". So much so that Perospero even commented on the situation more than twice by saying "This is bad".
     
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    She definitely wasn't at her best that's for sure.
     
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    Big Mom >>> Wadatsumi, So?
     
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