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Chapter Discussion One Piece Chapter 856: Liar

Discussion in 'One Piece Manga Discussion' started by Mr. Kishido, Feb 16, 2017 at 8:48 AM.

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  1. Baba

    Baba Call me Bropper, Bitch! Wanted

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    No, it was actually they'll take her with them so that they'll have an upper hand over Big Mom if things go wrong. More like they'll be able to blackmail BM.
     
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    Oh ok. That makes sense.
     
  4. pactime

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    Hello everybody,
    It is fascinating about how things are running in the Whole cake Arc, where we discovered not one conspiracy but many; Big Mom red party; Straw Hats' wrecking plan; Vinksmoke and Capune ( most probably the most unexpected one that would made things up-side-down).
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 17, 2017 at 7:40 PM, Original Post Date: Feb 17, 2017 at 7:35 PM ---
    It seems obvious in this Chapter that the Vins family are playing dumb by revealing their fake dreams. It is not the Vins that we know, those assassins are most of the time cautious about their plan and suspicious all the time, specially where they are accompanied by others
     
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    Common sense would say Capone and Vinsmoke vs BM pirates vs SH
    Imagine if Vinsmokes are being played by Capone, tht would lead to a new dynamic which is
    Vinsmokes vs BM pirates
    Capone vs BM pirates
    SH vs. BM pirates
    Capone vs Vinsmokes
    It might be clear who's on what side 1 moment, then there might be multiple side switching throughout the next 15-24 chapters
    like I said before, this arc is gearing up to be the most complex arc ever, it could be 1 of the Goda arcs
    I've been reading this for a while now and never seen this amount of confusion in the community before, none of us have a for sure feel on how this will end and that is the greatness of it
    Suspense from curiosity and the urgency because we feel like our heroes are outclassed and outmatched
     
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    I might dare to say this whole ceremony ( the wedding thing evoked by the Vins) is all made by Capone and the Vins to enter and destroy Big Mom from inside which no body could get her from outside which leads Capon to join her crew to have a total freedom from inside. I believe neither BM nor Vins trust each other. they are both cunny which leads me to say that the only deceived in this plot is the audience.
     
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    The chapter war Good , not the best.
    It didn't give me the effect like it did with Robin ( cried so much ;-; )
    These last chapters were way to predictable , we knew about the bento box , we knew that Brook will have the poneghlyp copies in his skull and more.
    Lets hope these last chapters about the wedding are amazing ^-^
     
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    What if Judge has third eye:hides:
     
  9. Reyes Ray

    Reyes Ray

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    Then why wouldn't any of his kids have it?
     
  10. DizzyBrows

    DizzyBrows Vivi Bon Chan

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    I've actually heard that theory on a stream before. Unless Judge plans on becoming the Pirate King I can't find a reason for Oda to do such a thing though.
     
  11. AfroKing

    AfroKing

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    Because Sora had only one eye.
    Germa just made a hole in her skull and put a fake eye in her.
    It's so easy to undestand.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 17, 2017 at 9:55 PM, Original Post Date: Feb 17, 2017 at 9:51 PM ---

    Jugde had sex with Big mom confirmed.
    He just don't remember because he wasn't sober.
    That's why Big Mom wants to kill him. He left her pregnant with pudding and left her alone to raise the poor child.
     
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    Was this ever specified as an island?! This could be the bottom of a ship.
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    This isn't my first bet but if Shiki is really a canon character it's technically possible he could be behind this; using the craters as a way to levitate things directly into his ship w/0 being identified.

    But nevertheless, I've really been hoping Capone was conspiring for the sake of the story. Capone seems smart and sensible so for him to think he can take down the likes of a Yonko.. he's got to be working with someone else or something powerful enough for him to feel like this will not end in his demise, that's why i'm hyped. Capone having plans of taking down a yonko gets me even more hyped than Luffy co destroying the wedding because Capone doesn't take much risks. That's why he left Sabaody before Kizaru arrived and he played it safe with Big Mom instead of going against her.

    So whatever he has planned is sure to be practically full proof with the minor exception of him and whoever, still underestimating Big Mom at the end of the day.
     
  13. RMP321

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    Just to confirm, shiki is cannon. He was mentioned during the impel down arc as the only person to have ever escaped.
     
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    From what I remmember Shiki must touch object to make it float, but from the picture we see that Capone and his crew are being drawn towards it.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 17, 2017 at 10:23 PM, Original Post Date: Feb 17, 2017 at 10:19 PM ---
    I wouldn't be suprised if Capone is with BB, bcoz BB jolly roger has 3 skull, potentionally 3 DF and if Capone goal is Pudding who have 3 eyes he can go to Raftel and there have fight against SH.
     
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    21Sanji

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    Yeah true thanks! Then since he is one of the few I have seen with this type of power he can't be ruled out.
    Ahh yeah that's one of the drawbacks of the fuwa fuwa no mi, hmmm still possible, although slimmer chance, if Capone was a target for Shiki and he brushed by his ship while it was docked near Sabaody.

    Edit: But that seems like to big of a reveal and side plot for Whole Cake, but Capone definitely has top hype to me in this arc, him and Big Mom specifically. Followed By Katakuri
     
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    A lot of people seem dismayed on the Vinsmoke's naivety. Maybe Judge, despite having the vast knowledge of science and the advancement in technology, isn't really much of a strategist or tactician (unlike Sanji). He's just smart in a different way. Maybe this is the reason why they lost control of North Blue even though they have the more advanced technology.
     
  17. Spoiler Alert

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    Maybe Shiki has awakened DF and thats why he can drawn towards him the ship
    About Katakuri if Pudding is Katakuri I will be dissapointed.
    I would like that Katakuri be someone new and lazy but to OP.
     
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    Dango

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    Oda loves trolling like crazy.....made us think that Bobbin was top tier and untouchable by teasing us that Bobbin Solo an Island.....and look what happen...

    BUTTTT HOLD UP DROP YOUR SHIT, BOBBIN SAID THEY!!!! its a Troll I think THE HYPE IS REAL!!!!!!
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    I don't think they will be against it knowing Sanji's situation.
     
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    Same here and I would be sooooo disapointed if pudding was katakuri :booo: .
    Pudding doesn't give off the same "hierarchical status" vibe that the Commanders seem to get in WCI and between the family members.
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    She had to ask Opera's permission before she could even go near Luffy and Nami.
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    It would just seem like a lame forced reveal to me and it would be hard to get me as a reader to all of a sudden see her as some top brass and revered the way it seems Cracker and Smoothie are.
     
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  21. Mr. Tiddles

    Mr. Tiddles

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    Poor Sanji

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    True. Judge probably abandoned Pudding because she reminded him of the night of the Yonkou Christmas party where he and Big Mom got drunk and had sex. But in the morning, Judge left her for some other woman.

    Big Mom then went to join "Mothers for Justice" and sued Judge for negligence, filing countless lawsuits against him. Unfortunately, the concept of a support father does not exist in the One Piece verse, so Judge was never tried and so he never paid for child support.

    This is why Pudding is Big Mom's favourite child. Pudding is the golden egg, whose dream is to set off to the New World to collect back child support from her dead-beat dad, who abandoned her mom that night.

    Anyone would want to forget sex with Big Mom.