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Speculation Mihawk's Official Title is not the Strongest

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  1. jordan moananu

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    I said Luffy will surpass roger EOS and he will have to be roger level to even be PK. If that's at 19 or 30 - 40 is up to oda but it is gonna happened as he is the main character.

    It takes strength to be PK. Luffy needs to be roger lvl or stronger to beat the yonko and become PK. Luffy won't fodderize Zoro EOS he will be just above zoro at just above high yonko level. No yonko can one shot admirals so idk why you think Luffy can just coz he is around high yonko level. If you grab the strongest yonko right now and face them against kizaru, fuji and kuzan that yonko wont one shot them. They will still have a hard time with said admiral. Roger can't even one shot admirals. Do you think sengoku in his prime gets one shot from roger ? No way so stop with that idiotic idea.

    EOS :

    Zoro = mid Yonko lvl
    Luffy = pk level
     
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    Jux saying but a few chapters back he struggled against doffy a mere schibukai
    Needs an alliance to beat kaido
    And after that the next two top people for luffy to fight are BB and akainu...which would be life or death situations and his toughest battles ever.
     
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    The yonkos,Mihawk and the admirals are comparable in strength .If the yonkos are too much powerful than the admirals, then the world government can be easily destroyed by the yonkos if they unite together and rule the one piece world.
     
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    Finally somebody else that understands the Admiral-Yonko power dynamic! Thank you for existing!

    With response to the original post; how do you measure a swordsman's greatness? It's usually through skill. And there is no better way of portraying skill with a weapon than through combat. The most skilled and therefore greatest swordsman is the same as the strongest swordsman.
     
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  5. jordan moananu

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    Luffy is the main character ofc. He will be the strongest ever. BB EOS is going to be a monster probably equal to prime WB and Luffy will beat him meaning he will be stronger than Roger and WB.

    Luffy still has a lot to learn hence why I said EOS. Mihawk is supposed to be yonko lvl if he is weaker then zoro will struggle to support luffy in the future.
     
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    I'm actually interested in this topic now! Cuz in the last time Zoro talking about it, he said he wanna become the the greatest swordsman not the strongest so not sure, Oda may have changed the wording.

    @Den_Den_Mushi Can you confirm it from the Japanese text? It's from Dressrosa arc chapter 754.
     
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  7. jordan moananu

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    Greatest and strongest mean the same thing in japanese they are in a sense the same word. Even viz translators have said this.
     
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    For me it's actually confusing cuz the thing is the title the greatest can be understood by saying Mihawk has the greatest skill in swordsmanship, but the strongest is just the strongest against any sword user.
     
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  9. jordan moananu

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    Like i said the word greatest abs strongest are all the sane same word in Japanese language. WB wad introduced with the same weird greatest but they translated or as strongest in English.
     
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    No they didn't. One of them did, and others never said it's the same thing. 4 of the VIZ translators always translated as ''greatest'' not even one time ''strongest''.

    First translation ;

    Translator : Naoko Amemiya

    ''THE GREATEST SWORDSMAN IN THE WORLD''

    Second ;

    ''The World's Greatest Swordsman''

    Translator : Andy Nakatani

    --- Double Post Merged, Mar 30, 2017, Original Post Date: Mar 30, 2017 ---
    Are you japanese ? And when they did say ''greatest'' for Whitebeard.

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  11. jordan moananu

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    Erkan many people and even translators have told you that mihawk title is both strongest / greatest. Smh
     
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    Translators are talking about sword mastery, not general power like you guys did. Which is why they are firstly using the greatest, it's the same thing for them because they never think like you people; which is mihawk fans. They don't think Mihawk is more powerful than Fujitora because Fujitora is a swordsman, translator specifically said this, Mihawk isn't stronger than Fujitora, because Fujitora has additional powers like gravity.
     
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    Ate you a translator or japanese good damn man people who ate Japanese and translators have told you he's big the strongest and greatest yet you carry on this retarded convo. Just give it a rest mate
     
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    I don't know about swordsmanship... But there's a fair line b/w strongest and greatest.
    But in terms of swordsmanship i guess greatest=strongest
     
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    WB = 世界最強= Sekai Saikyo no Otako = Whitebeard = The Strongest Man in the World

    Mihawk = 世界最強剣士 = Sekai Saikyo no Kenshi = The Strongest Swordsman in the World
     
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    I will just point out what has been said by others.
    The kanji for the words of WB and Mihawk are the same other than the last part
    The kanji for the world's strongest is the same for both
    The only difference is the man/swordsman part
     
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  18. YonkouBuggy

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    Lol Erkan, You're going through all these barriers just to get some fake ammo for your artificial tier list in a children's manga...:eek::rofl:

    You need to get a life.
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 23, 2018, Original Post Date: Feb 23, 2018 ---
    World Strongest swordsmen and World greatest swordsmen is the exact same thing ffs

    It's a children story, some of you need to stop overthinking and making things over-complicated.

    Seriously, a 6 years old child would have understood what Mihawk's title meant when he was introduced.
     
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