General & Other Luffy will not fight Big Mom

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  1. Rp4lyf

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    Big mom has already had an arc( WCI) and she is a women. Oda will not have luffy fight a women in a brutal brawl deathmatch
    Alvida was an exception that oda will never do again. She will be off-screened by Blackbeard or the rest of the supernova's not named Luffy, Kid, Law, Zoro.

    Right now, she is irrelevant to Luffy's story. He already taken a ponelglyph form her. Jinbe is dead, he is Ace no. 2. There will be more people dying for Luffy, until he gets proper character development.

    If Jinbe is alive, he is better off dead than being nerfed to join Luffy's crew. If he joins luffy's crew he better have his full power.

    Convince me otherwise on the statements that were made by me above.
     
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    What are you trying to say? Luffy has already at least tried to fight Big Mom in the past and has also fought with Monet, i really dont understand were you got the idea that Oda will not allow Luffy to fight women...
    how is jimbe relevant at all to this conversation?
    There is not nearly enough information to determine whether or not Luffy is going to fight Big Mom again so there is no real point to speculating.
     
  3. Pirate•king•Luffy

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    Alvida.
    Big Mom ‘s tyranny is not over. The children have no freedom even to marry the person they want. Pudding story is incomplete. So she is relevant to the story.
    And Jinbei is definitely alive oda said so indirectly
    And there is no need for nerfing because the crew is nowhere near yonko crew they actually need another strong character like jinbei
     
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    My theory is Katakuri will beat or kill Big Mom and take control of the Big Mom pirates before encountering the Strawhats again.
     
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    OP is at its end stages. If yall think Oda is gonna waste his time with this clown, yall have another thing coming.
     
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    big mom is one of the major antagonists of the series, and a massive obstacle for Luffy. He said like 5 times already he is going to fight her so it's going to happen.
     
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    Katakuri will join the alliance in Wano
    Kaido and Big mom will both go down this arc and I don’t see sole credit going to Luffy

    This could result in a supernovas rise to fame so that they could properly rival Luffy and Blackbeard

    But imo Luffy would hit whomever he needed to at the time no questions asked(Vivi, Momonosuke, possibly an elderly like Kureha; I doubt he cares.. much more primitive ideals)
     
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    OP is at its end stages, but Oda still has enough time to deal with the smaller clown called Mr. Princess

    So he definitely still has time too for Big Mom
     
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    yeah he will

    literally the first person luffy fought was alivda
    not to mention hancock's sisters

    Oda just wont have luffy fight attractive women
     
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    You actually think she will be off screened?? The idea that Luffy won't fight her is debatable, I guess, though at this point it's practically set in stone that it will happen. But to think that Big Mom will be off screened by Blackbeard is just ridiculous. That's just not how One Piece works.

    This entire story has been about getting to the point where it's about fighting the four emperors. Oda has outright stated that this was the plan all along. Each Emperor carries a tremendous amount of weight in this story, and the defeat of just one emperor (WB) was the most large scale One Piece arc to date. What you're talking about is basically like if Akainu got offscreened. It would make no sense for any series, but especially in this story where literally every single major villain is ultimately meant to be defeated by Luffy. No major villain has ever been anti-climactically offscreened, and even major characters that do lose offscreen fights like Aokiji and Marco are still around. The idea that a villain with as much buildup and significance as Big Mom would be permanently defeated offscreen makes zero sense.

    Also Luffy's first fight in the entire series was against a Woman. Where did you get the idea Luffy would never fight a woman?

    And she's not at all irrelevant to Luffy's story. Luffy's goal is to beat each Yonko. Becoming Pirate King and surpassing Roger means defeating each of the Emperors, and so Luffy vs Big Mom will happen at some point no matter what. Luffy has said this himself a million times. She's currently chasing after him to Wano. They are clearly on a collision course, the fight is bound to happen.
     
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    she is literally trying to kill him
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 24, 2018, Original Post Date: Jul 24, 2018 ---
    no its not

    jinbei coming back handicapped and having to overcome said handicap would actually be a really interesting story
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 24, 2018 ---
    yeah but at the very least luffy should be their when those people die.

    also, Luffy needs his own version of the calamities/SCs, zoro and sanji aren't enough to make him PK
     
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    Awww, balasan yang sakittt. Oh, sorry, i mean, that's ruthless. :lmao:
     
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    Luffy not fighting attractive women may be a bit of childish thing for Oda to do, but it's Oda, so, YEah.

    Though, I'm pretty sure knowing Luffy, appearance would never factor into it, he'll fight whoever is in his way.
    Although I'm sure saying someone isn't attractive is more of a personal preference rather then a fact.
    I mean, some folk are interested in the Hefty types! :p
     
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    Oda has made Luffy fight female characters in the past like Luffy vs Alvida and Luffy vs both Boa Sandersonia and Marigold. So saying Oda isn't going to make Luffy fight a women is ridiculous, Oda has made Luffy say multiple times that he wants to fight and defeat Big Mom. The two clearly hate each other for different reasons and ever since the WCI arc their hatred for each have grown, and did you not read chapter 907? Big Mom still wants to go after Luffy after everything he did during the WCI arc, unlike Kaido who Luffy wants to defeat because Law and the others asked him to.

    The whole thing with Big Mom is more of a personal thing now, Big Mom was the first Yonko Luffy challenged and picked a fight with, Big Mom threatened to destroy Fishman Island after Luffy just saved it, she sent her subordinates to capture one of his friends, she tricked that said friend and was planning on killing him and his entire family, she also tricked the Luffy and Nami and made them believe she was going to let them go after the tea party when in reality she was planning to kill them. As for what Luffy did to her, he defeated two of her Sweet Generals, ruined her tea party and wedding cake, ruined her plans to kill the Vinsmokes and steal their Kingdom and Technology, indirectly caused Whole Cake Chateau to collapse, and after escaping her territory Morgans gave Luffy all the credits for what he did to Big Mom and her crew and because of Morgans news regarding Luffy during the WCI arc, Big Mom and her crew were humiliated.

    So yeah these two have a personal hatred for each other now, and if Oda has Luffy say multiple times he's going to fight and defeat Big Mom then he's going to fight and defeat her. Could there be a possible chance that Luffy won't fight and defeat her of course but also saying she is going to be off screened is the most ridiculous thing ever, Oda does not off screen very important characters especially not for Big Mom who is already theorized to either return again during the Wano arc, Elbaf, or return to Fishman Island. As for the whole thing with Jinbe he's not dead, he's not going to kill someone like Jinbe off screen and it seems like you personally don't want to see Jinbe return but guess what he's going to so deal with it.

    I'm sorry but your theory is just as horrible as all of AFT theories.
     
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    Well........ that’s not really true
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    This was the first enemy Luffy faced besides the Sea King back home. So that already establishes that Luffy can fight women and he also fought Monet in Punk Hazard. I was expecting some in depth speculation on how Big Mom will arrive on Wano’s shores but rather confront Blackbeard and get defeated there. And there is potential for that to happen. But instead we’re back to this “Luffy won’t fight a woman” narrative which was brought a couple of times during the WCI arc.
     
  16. Rp4lyf

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    Luffy is focusing on Kaido, he already got what he needed from Big Mom. Roger did not even fight Big Mom. She's also a women, Oda does not like drawing women beaten up to a pulp. Kaido is the closest Yonko to Luffy in terms of destruction/ collateral damage and fighting style. Big Mom will never see Luffy face to face again, even if she does get beaten on screen, it will not be by Luffy.
     
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    Every main antagonist in this series had at some point had their story wrapped up, in defeat or otherwise. Regardless of their relevancy. If the trend continued for every other volume in the series, Big Mom will be defeated. The Yonko are the closest things to main antagonist, that should be enough alone to convince you.

    The first exception is Loguetown, if you want to consider Smoker the main antagonist. But the marines have usually been the exception to the rule, because Luffy usually doesn't really confront them himself. And Logueown, was, like Marineford, a watershed moment for the series.
    An antagonist wasn't the point, moving the story forward to the Grand Line was.

    Second exception of this was the "anti-climax" of Marineford. But Oda himself has acknowledged that the moment he did there was meant to be special (he doesn't like killing characters but he had to for Ace because it was so important), and the end result of Marineford was a huge turning point for the series. That should be convincing enough - unless you believe Big Mom will be an ally..but after all the Straw-Hats have done to her and after all she's done to them that' implausible.

    Every other arc, all the primary antagonist were case-closed. The only even remote chances of this happening were if Big Mom became an ally character, but if that was ever going to happen, it would've happened with the cake. Considering Big Mom is now "especially" angry at Luffy..chances seem impossible.

    It's likely that Shanks storyline will be resolved (being set up since the very beginning), it's likely Blackbeard's storyline will be resolved (he's Blackbeard) and it's completely guaranteed Kaido's storyline will be resolved. It's the same case for just about every other main antagonist ever, and Big Mom is one of the most important main antagonists in the same group with those three characters. Not going to be any different.

    But; I will agree that she's not going down in Wano at least. Luffy isn't defeating two Yonko in one arc, and Oda isn't going to let an obstacle as important as Big Mom be toppled without Luffy's involvement.
     
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  18. Rp4lyf

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    We already had a Big Mom Arc (Whole Cake Island) so there is that. Also with 80% of the story complete, there us no time for Luffy to deal with BM. Luffy after fighting Kaido, there will probably be a 5 year timeskip for Luffy to get stronger. Because Luffy right now is a fodder level pirate compared to a Yonko. Oda also wrote himself into a corner with Gear 4th being unreliable, there is no way Luffy can even beat top tiers judging by the 10 day battle between Akainu and Akoji. Geat 4th cannot be mastered based on its haki weakness. Also Kaido will be easier to beat for Luffy, than Big Mom due to Kaido being a stronger version of luffy without the gum gum fruit devil fruit.
     
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    Big Mom existance litteraly just for the sakes of hypetools
     
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    he did fight Monet and she was pretty attractive.
     
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