General & Other Kaido is the easiest top tier to beat

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  1. Rp4lyf

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    There is a reason Oda has set Kaido to be the first top tier to fall. Kaido lacks versatility which is why he will he eash to beat. Oda never made luffy fight Big Mom because she is unbeatable.

    Her versatility is too strong for any top tier. Big Mom is unbeatable. Also other top tiers have more versatility than Kaido.

    That is why he is weak compared to Big Mom. Roger even ran away from Big Mom.
     
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    Yeah I highly doubt she's unbeatable of stronger than Kaido regardless of her versatility.

    Kaido is hyped to have the highest durability in the verse. None of her shit is going to hurt him except maybe her Elbaf techniques
     
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    In a 1vs1 always bet on Kaido. Now is BM + Zeus + Prometheus + Napoleon a 1vs1? HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM
    We need to see Kaido compared to BM but I guess right now it seems BM just has so much attack potential and her own insane durability. While Kaido is trying to break BM and blocking her sword he is getting burned and zapped by Zeus and Prometheus's attacks
     
  4. Hi Shin Unit

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    Too early to tell but Kaido just seem to be a brute fuh now and that should be right up in Luffys alley. So yeah that could be one of the reason why Kaido is going down first.
     
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    Too early to tell but even if he lacks versatility in his fighting style so does the guy like Garp and he is still the Legendary Hero in Marine
     
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    Not going to get into this threads discussion at all, saw this though.

    Yes........ it is.......... BM + Zeus + Prometheus + Napoleon by definition is a 1v1 lol......
     
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    her homies are part of her DF. Eventough the souls have lives of their own, they are still part of Big Mom abillities. Just like many DF users (like moriah kage2 no mi) who can modifies his DF similar to BM. In 1vs1, between Kaido vs Big Mom, bet on Kaido.
     
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    Big Mom wasn't shown to be oppressing her people. In fact, they seemed to be grateful to her. Compared to Kaidou who is driving people to poverty and destroying ecosystems in Wano. So, I think Kaidou will be beaten first because Big Mom's portrayal isn't despicable enough to warrant having the SHs interfere with their politics... is my take. But true answer is always, because Oda wanted it that way.
     
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    Good thing, bets can be wrong.
     
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    SMH Roger ran? We know NOTHING besides her single accusation that he ran. We got NO flashback in regards to this BS statement, we got no explanation from anybody on Rogers side, we have ZERO basis to state that she scared or intimidated the freaking PIRATE KING. Not the supposed pirate king, not the stand in pirate king, not the controversial pirate king you are trying to state that the WORLDWIDE PIRATE KING. Ran from BM like a little sally. Unforgivable. Sorry I got so mad but seriously. He is the freaking PIRATE KING. She is an old hag who lies NON STOP and sits her fat arse on an island surrounded by 10,000+ minions. Lame man, lame.
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    Oh and Kaido is probably not an easy mark. None of the emporors are, that goes for the fifth emperor as well, that’s right, Luffy. Since he is constantly on the move that is. It’s harder to hit a moving target. But yeah Kaido is the worlds strongest creature.
     
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    Did Roger beat Kaido?
     
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    Yes as Zeus, Prometheus and Napoleon are BMs powers, controlled by her.
     
  13. TheoryKing

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    Kaido/BM - both are about even to take out. Both are also currently the top 2 Yonko (with bb still building his fleet, while Shanks only being 1-armed). They from what we know have the biggest empires/fleets/hype/influence. Thus their overthrowing is the best symbolism of the announcement of the "arrival" of the Worst Generation.

    (I think it'll be a BM + Kaido arc, rather than just a Kaido arc). So no right now he is not the easiest top tier to take down, that'd be Shanks. He's the hardest to take down, thus the Worst generation taking him down will hold such weight.


    BB (down the line) - will be the fight for luffy's arrival as the top dog on the seas.

    Also can we please stop the "roger ran away from BM"..He didn't run away, he avoided fighting her, big difference. BM wasn't even considered part of the big powers on the seas, she was a damn after-thought. Hence once Shiki & Roger went down, it automatically became Whitebeard's era.
     
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    It is too early to make these statements. We don't even know anything about him.
     
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    It's easier to beat one person when you've got a multiple party alliance, grand fleet and plot possibilities.

    1v1, Luffy isn't beating Kaido. Luffy has gotten game changing assists since fighting Doflamingo. The citizens of Dressrosa stopped the Fujitora match, Nami helped him with Cracker, and Katakuri handicapped himself for level footing after the peanut gallery he didn't stop beforehand interfered with their match.

    Luffy isn't stopping anyone 1v1 of merit right now.

    Kaido's loss is going to come from multiple forces taking him on at the same time. We've already got Luffy and Law confirmed, maybe even Zoro. It would be crazy to think Kidd doesn't want to a piece of that action for revenge on top of other characters in Wano that may have issue with Kaido.

    There's already the possibility of a 4v1.

    I suspect Big Mom is going to play a part in weakening Kaido so the others can stand a chance to defeat him.
     
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    No, he fights Kaido first because it will be a gang bang on Kaido and so Luffy could push-improve himself enough to take the other Yonkos 1 on 1.
     
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    Let's put that to the test shall we?
    opponent vs zeus is a 1v1
    opponent vs prometheus is a 1v1
    opponent vs napoleon is a 1v1
    opponent vs bm is a 1v1
    So what is...
    opponent vs bm + zeus + prometheus + napoleon?
    1v4 right?
     
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    Zeus Napoleon Prometheus are BM weapons

    Kaido is the hardest to defeat
    That has been hyped and stated over and over

    Kaido and BM are th 2 powerhouse of pirates
    It's them that rule the sea than any pirate crew
    They both have a RP , massive fleets and strong crew and also many territories
    They also linked to the legendary ROX

    That's why they are falling in order to let the worst generation rise in power.

    Shanks isn't a powerhouse like Kaido nor BM
    BB too is still building his empire.

    Kaido >>>>>>> ANYONE even WB or Roger
    When it's 1 vs 1
    He has better chances of winning than anyone
     
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    BM is broken on so many levels.

    she physically outmatches giants.
    zeus and prometheus have attacks similar too mera and goro.
    zeus and prometheus can not be harmed by haki.
    she casually performs sword slashes that devestate the landscape.
    she can fly with the help of her homies.
    her homies powers can be combined to form stronger attacks or control the weather.
    top tiers do not even put scratches on her.

    unlike any other of the yonkou I have no clue how you would even fight her. she seems to be unbeatable unless you starve her.
     
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    Drop it dude
    stop with underestimating Kaido
     
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