Who is SSJ's opponent? Yotanwa Who is the one that is supposed to counter SSJ? Yotanwa Did Yotanwa make a strategy and made sure the mountain people in her tribe scouted the mountains for the tunnels? Not that we know of Did Yotanwa expect them to go after the supplies? Not that we know of Did Yotanwa make a special plan for the supplies in case they were destroyed? Not that we know of ... It's fairly easy to toss around the blame. So if you down play Heki for that.. then why am i not seeing you guys make posts about Yotanwa getting outplayed by Riboku's protege? lmao No different than Riboku outplaying Ousen by coming on to Mouten's battlefield and taking out a general, while Mouten and etc couldn't do jackshit about it.. was that HSU's fault for not being able to stop Riboku while being on the same battlefield?? Did Mouten not see Riboku coming, while being on the same battlefield, why didn't he pay more attention?? Nope.. none of the middle men on the actual battlefield mattered, because it was out of their hand and they were simply out-strategized, and who takes the blame for not being prepared for that? None other than Ousen. ------------------------- And it's one of the following, y'all the make the choice.. but don't be hypocritical when you make the choice here: Either SSJ is a genius strategist on par with the great generals (which is what that entire feat it supposed to point out) OR Heki is supposed to be a general on par with the great generals and on par with Zhao's top generals..in which him getting outplayed by SSJ is demeaning on him as he's supposed to be on his level ---------------------- If it's the first, then no clue how Heki is being demeaned here for that, when Shin failed to kill the strongest commander of the army he's facing.. If it's the second, then you're all being delusional, cause ain't no way in hell is he on that level. It can't be both. So when y'all pick one.. let me know so there can be a concrete argument on your guys' side and no chance of flip floping logic.