Powers & Abilities How strong would Luffy be if he trained?

Luffy entered grandline 2 years and 5 months ago. Before that he had a really poor training since what he did was punching rock and running after wild beats.

Even during the 2 year timeskip, all he was doing was fighting beasts which is why he is weak.

How strong would he be if he got trained professionally like Sanji and Zoro?

 

Sanji got a similar training regime as Luffy, kind of a sink or swim routine. But Luffy got better training because he was learning Haki from a Haki master. Zoro probably had the best master for him of the three, not only someone who fights like him (with a sword) but the undisputed best in the world.

 

Still how strong would Luffy be if he got proper training like Coby and Zoro? Not just fighting animals and punching rock.

 

He did get proper training as much as he could. There isn't a person on the planet who could fully train Luffy because his fighting style is based around his Devil Fruit, which no one else has. As such Rayliegh focused on general training and Haki.

 

No, he did not. Luffy and Ace were not given proper training. Training like Zoro's or even Marine style training would help Luffy a lot. Especially rukushiki which would help him use his devil fruit more effeciently.

 

Yes they were. You really think Garp trained Coby better than his own family?

What we saw of the wilderness sections were aspects of the greater regime. There is literally no way Luffy wasn't trained in that time, given his developed of all his Haki abilities.

 

how weak would luffy be if he did not have plot armor?

 

Very weak as his devil fruit is not made for combat and is completely useless, nor has he trained.

Remember Luffy is like Garp, Whitebeard and Roger, normal people with slow growth rates.
He was not born a monster, like Kaido, Big Mom and Zoro.

 

Every character in One Piece has a maximum ceiling. All Luffy would have done is get a headstart, but peaked around the same area. Dellinger at 16 for example shits on 16 yo Luffy, but would 19 year Dellinger be on par with 19 year old Luffy? Doubt it.

 

I mean, there's nobody else with a rubber df so who can train him in this specificity? General fitness and haki training is all Luffy needs and he's done plenty of that.

 

I mean, even just having a body immune to blunt force trauma and so is not useless. I mean, he's bullet proof.

 

That is the only good aspect of his devil fruit, but it is cancelled by the fact that he uses more energy doing everything else due to the way his devil fruit works.

 

When has this been stated?

 

You are joking right?

We know for a fact Garp threw Luffy in situations where one has to fight to survive. And this was happening years upon years upon years until Luffy decided to leave his hometown. And he also trained with Ace and Sabo somewhat.

And you have a testimony to how much Garps training helped Luffy because literally first thing Luffy does after leaving his island is killing a Sea King.

Luffy didnt get strong just because he is strong from birth. He aint Big Mom. He trained.

So the whole notion what if Luffy trained is false because Luffy already trained

 

Whatever Oda deems tbh. Luffy completely evolved over a two year timeskip. Yet marines who receive "proper" training their entire lives are barely above regular human level. This is actually one my gripes about One Piece. Some people can train literally everyday and see absolutely nothing from it.

 

Professionally? Bro, if he didnt know Haki professionally he wouldnt have known how to unlock Advanced Haki forms or how to even weaken a person's Haki. That's actually pretty advanced. Rayleigh is an old man, if you hadn't noticed. He was only able to take on an Admiral, and in the middle of that fight he also said this "I wish I was 10 years younger." Impling he's gotten majorly weaker since then. So Mihawk right now is stronger than Rayleigh because of his age. Doesn't mean it would be one sided though. Because to me Mihawk is stronger than an Admiral. He is at least near Yonko tier or a mid level Yonko. And from how Haki grows within fight, Zoro probably had it the best for his Armament Haki. Sanji for Observation Haki because he didnt wanna be turned gay again. But Luffy just in between but just strong enough to get both of his Haki on an Advanced level. How does Luffy know that? Because of what he's been saying about Haki in all of his fights.

 

You can't be "Turned gay"

 

Wut.
If it was brought on to you and you found out you like it then, yes. Yes you can. Because you can say you were straight all this time up until a moment in your life when a "gay" moment happened and you enjoyed it. And accepted it. That's turning gay.

 

Luffy was trained in survival and toughness by garp, trained to use his df by the guy at the beach, and practice with ace and sabo and all this as a little kid.. how much training did he need?? And professionally he got that from rayleigh, who is probably a top-10 haki user of all time

 

I'm not going to get into this type of discussion, but no you can't be "turned gay" any more than you can be "turned straight", and that is a fact, if you disagree, you are wrong.