Discussion HI SHIN UNIT (SHIN PERSONAL ARMY)

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  1. TheoryKing

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    Bro I just said she can have a special secretary, but she will not have a LT. that is recognized as a lt. within the HSU. As she herself is a LT. of the HSU.

    Sosui/En/Kyoukai = The 3 Lts. of the HSU
    "Vice commander of infantry" = official HSU position
    "Commander of infantry " = official HSU position
    "Tens' secretary" = non-official hsu title, that's ten's own personal secretary, like Garo is to Gakurai for the Hyou cavalry

    Kyoukai has already shown 2 individuals like that who are most likely her "adjutant", but they won't be recognized as "lts" within the HSU.
     
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  2. BossYimz

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    Kyou kai is the lieutenant of her HSU, but she is the captain of her unit.
    Anyway, we will just have to agree to disagree on this one
     
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  3. Zephyr

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    Regarding Tou, Rokuomi and Ryoukaku none of them were officially general under Qin military. Tou's unit had only 5K men.

    It wasn't until after Ouki's death that they were recognized as generals.
     
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  4. Marcusx8

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    Yeah they were all “Army Commanders” and Tou was just “Lieutenant” Ouki didn’t have an official General under him. Ouki kinda made Tou a General by giving his Army to him.
     
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  5. Guan_Yu

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    Did Suugen assign Shousa as his vice? Nope
    Did Shin assign Shousa as vice infantry Commander? Definitely
    Did Shousa became Suugen's personal vice? I don't think so
    Did Ten appointed his own adjutant? Nope
    Did Shin assign him as Ten's adjutant? Yep
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 8, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 8, 2018 ---
    Yup, and it most likely due to Ouki's retirement from the military, so his army Commander can't rise throughout the ranks.

    But i think that Tou's army ( remnants of Ouki's) number were more than 5k. They indeed only bring 5k to stop Chu, but don't forget that he only bring two Commander. Rokuomi and Kanou bring some army while investigating near Wei border. And Ryuukoku could possibly bring some too.
     
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  6. Zephyr

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    Sorry I didn't completely understand what you were saying here.
     
  7. Guan_Yu

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    Hahaha

    What i mean was that when Tou engage Chu, he brings Rinbou and Doukin along with 5k soldier. Meanwhile at the same time, Rokuomi and Kanou also bring soldiers to investigate the anomaly's in the border. At the other hand, Ryuukoku could possibly also doing investigation since we didn't see him. And judging by that, i think that The remnants of Ouki's number would exceed 5k
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 9, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 8, 2018 ---
    I actually kinda wish for Shin to get some Quanrong army to join him :rofl:
     
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  8. Zephyr

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    Lieutenant are considered second in command & in the event of their captains death they may be promoted & given full control of the unit.

    That's what happened to many 1K units after Rinko slayed their commander.

    So in a sense it's possible when Shin becomes GG his lieutenants En & Sosui will be considered general level unofficially.
    --- Double Post Merged, Apr 22, 2018, Original Post Date: Apr 11, 2018 ---



    I want to see duel of listed individual below of HSU against ranked opposition commander. Is that too much to ask Hara?
    • Kyou Kai
    • Naki
    • Suu Gen
     
  9. Guan_Yu

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    Really wanted to see Naki and Auugen gey some duel time
     
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  10. Zephyr

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    OuSen has created many offensive & defensive tactics for his army. His Generals & even their subordinates are well versed on those tactics.

    I hope HSU will come up with it's own unique tactics. So far Hara has shown only one & even that was years ago.
     
  11. 2_C_sam

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    I honestly I agree with this thought, I would also want ten later on to get other strategists around her (with her being number one though) and maybe someone who is good at defence
     
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  12. Moey Krimz

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    id rather more focus on the current characters than introducing new characters
     
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  13. 2_C_sam

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    I don’t agree. I think there is still time for characters to be introduced and developed enough for fans to accept as part of the unit. I just don’t think Ten will be able to be the sole tactician for the unit when it becomes an army. Therefore new additions now won’t hurt
     
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  14. Guan_Yu

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    I wish Ten died
     
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  15. 2_C_sam

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    Why is Ten hated so much? She is a good strategist who is still developing like everyone in the hi shin unit.
     
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  16. Guan_Yu

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    The appearance of Ten in HSU destroyed the "true" dynamic in it.
     
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  17. Moey Krimz

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    EXACTLYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 11, 2018, Original Post Date: Aug 11, 2018 ---
    Look at Ou Ki's achievements, Ou Sen's, Kan Ki's, Ri Boku etc.... End of the day its the top dog, the Great General in command who matters.
    Ou Sen's locust strategy defines him, not Akou. Kanki's execution of the Han commander in the midst of 150K enemies defines him, not Raido. Riboku tricking Ou Ki, gathering the coalition, slipping past Kankou pass etc. define him, not Kei Sha. Ren Pa conquering Mou Gou's fort defines him, not Rin Ko etc etc. etc.
    Infront of the mightiness of these men, their deputies are neglectable. So Ten's worth doesn't really matter much, nor does the introduction of any more strategists. Because end of the day, its Shin's instincts which are gonna win the war, not Ten.
     
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  18. 2_C_sam

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    I disagree with your thought because the instinctual great general we got used too kill his people in droves for the sake of success but I believe with a strategist they could have achieved this without sustaining as many casualties. And the idea that ten inclusion destroyed the hi shin units “true dynamic” is a weird statement because you’re denying evolution.
    --- Double Post Merged, Aug 11, 2018 ---
    Until shin becomes great general the hi shin unit hasn’t formed a “true dynamic”, as it is continuously evolving.
     
  19. Monkey D family

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    The King Sei, Shin, Ten, Shoubunkun, and heki.. this is the family this is the party this is the team within the kingdom.. after this team was formed Shin went out and built his unit
    --- Double Post Merged, Nov 30, 2018, Original Post Date: Nov 30, 2018 ---
    Smh the ten disrespect
     
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  20. Moey Krimz

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    As far as i remember. Its never been stated that Ga Ro is a lieutenant of the Hi Shin Unit. Shin has only given that position to En and Kyoukai at the very begining and So Sui later on.
    In fact Gaku Rai is Ga Ro's leader as Ga Ro as far as the final arc called him Boss. But with all the screen time Ga Ro's been getting its assumed that he's the lieutenant of Galu Rai and the Hi Hyou troops, defenitely not the entire Hi Shin unit
    --- Double Post Merged, Feb 28, 2019, Original Post Date: Feb 28, 2019 ---
    Tou was a General. He was promoted to GG after the coalition by some time
     
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