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  1. Ukimix

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    Since there is a thread about worldwide animation, taking advantage of @Mallacy 's question about a story about detectives and supernatural, and given that I know about one, this could be the first post of a thread about the comics you know from the world, other than manga, manhua or manhwa, and that you think it would be good reading experience for others.

    Blacksad by Juán Diaz Canales and Juanjo Guarnido

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    It's Spaniard comic, but it's also translated into English.

    Here you'll find a good review: http://matttalksaboutmanga.blogspot.com/2014/01/blacksad.html

    The art is really really good (it reminds me of Urasawa's):

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    @kdom ; @Riley Escobar ; @Zoro ; @Maverick ; @Iter_Impius ; @Sammy ; @Freeze
     
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    I am a big reader of American comics, so I have a lot of stories that I could recommend. My personal top five stories would be

    1) The Killing Joke by Alan Moore. A classic. This is in my opinion the greatest Joker story ever written. The Joker's past is examined while he simultaneously puts together one of the most disturbing plans I've ever read.
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    2. Superman Red Son by Mark Millar. This is a "what if" story that is about what if Superman's rocket ship landed in the Soviet Union instead of Smallville, Kansas. Instead of fighting for "truth, justice, and the American way" Supes battles for "Stalin, socialism, and the international expansion of the Warsaw Pact" Also, Batman is a badass revolutionary in this story.
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    3. Batman: The Long Halloween, by Jeph Loeb. The Dark Knight movie takes a chunk of its plot from this. It takes place right after the famous Batman: Year One story line and centers around Batman, Gordon, and Harvey Dent forming an alliance to end organized crime in Gotham City. It also features the first time "super villains" appear in Gotham including a new serial killer named Holiday.
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    4. The Ultimates vol. 1 by Mark Millar. this is Marvel's "ultimate universe's" version of the Avengers. Like the Avengers movie it is a fun story with lots of action.
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    5. JLA: Tower of Babel, by Mark Waid. Batman keeps a set of contingency plans on how to take down the JLA should they ever go rogue or succumb to mind control. In this story Ra's al Ghul steals the files, and uses Batman's own plans do destroy the Justice League. It's really amazing to see just how paranoid and prepared Batman really is.
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    The killing joke is so far the only american comic i have read and it was fantastic in terms of Jokers characterization .

    Can you recommend me some great comics ?! Been meaning to check some comics but i literally don't know where to start .
     
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    Sure! Do you have any particular characters in mind that you want to read more about?
     
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    Deadpool , DeathStroke , Gambit , Batman , The Joker , Nightwing , Red hood ( Jason Todd) , ra's al ghul and Superman .
     
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    Awesome! Never read so much American comics, maybe I will try it out!
     
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    This one sounds really funny. You know communists made a reading of Superman as a story written to defend the private property.
     
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    OK, I haven't read much Deadpool or Gambit so I cant help you out there, but for the others I can.

    In addition to the ones I mentioned earlier for Batman and Joker I would recommend,
    - Batman: Year One. This is considered the definitive Batman origin story
    - The Dark Knight Returns: Another classic that is usually considered to be one of the two or three greatest graphic novels ever written
    - Arkham Asylum, A Serious House on Serious Earth: A little different than the other stories. Has really trippy art and is a really good psychological examination of characters in the Batman universe
    -Batman: Hush. Deals a lot with Batman and Catwoman's relationship but includes almost all of Batman's main foes
    - Court of Owls: This is a newer story, I think it came out in 2011, and it is a great place to start if you want to follow comics monthly
    - Joker (Brian Azzarello): This is a very dark and gritty story that kind of wipes away the glamour of super villains, and shows how disturbing the Joker really is.

    Nightwing:
    - The Judas Contract: This one has Deathstroke in it too. If you've ever watched the Teen Titans tv show the "Terra" arc is based on this story
    - The Black Mirror: Nightwing technically isn't in this since Dick Grayson was Batman at this particular point, but it is an awesome story nonetheless and another one of my personal favorites.
    - Nightwing: Year One: How Dick Grayson evolved from Robin to Nightwing

    Red Hood:
    -Batman: Under the Hood. If you've heard of the Red Hood you probably watched his animated movie which was based on this book
    - Batman: A Death in the Family. Doesn't have Red Hood but shows how Jason Todd died.

    Deathstroke:
    Identity Crisis: Slade is a minor character in this story but he's a boss when he shows up. This is a really good mystery where family members of the JL are being picked off one by one

    Ra's Al Ghul:
    - Trinity: Ra's faces against Batman, Wonder Woman and Superman
    - Batman: The Resurrection of Ra's Al Ghul. Ra's comes back to life and tries to take over his grandson's body. (who is also Batman's biological son Damian Wayne)

    Superman:
    -A Superman for All Seasons: Really touching story about Superman finding his way in the world
    -All-Star Superman: Widely considered to be the greatest Superman story ever. Superman finds out he's dying and this chronicles his final days
    -For the Man who Has Everything: Superman's mind is being fed illusions by an alien. The illusion fulfills all of Superman's hopes and desires and Superman must willingly throw away this "perfect life" to come back to reality
    -Lex Luthor: Man of Steel. This is more of a Luthor story but it is also one of my favorites. It examines why Lex hates Superman so much and really nails his character


    wow that's a lot haha :D

    p.s. you can get all of these on comixology if you don't want to actually look for them in a store
     
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    Woah Thanks for the huge list . Gonna copy this text and start downloading them one by one tomorrow ( gotta go to sleep now) .

    And yea i just watch Batman under the red hood just yesterday and really loved it hence the reason why i want to read more about Red Hood .
     
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    Damn how could I missed the tag when it is a topic I care for.

    Trivia about Blacksad, it is funny that Mashima the author of Fairy Tail is a big fan of the serie. For that he has my eternal respect however bad Fairy Tail plot can be.
    I must said American Comics is the part I'm the less knowledgeable. But Super Heroes sagas are so messy it's difficult to know where to start and I'm not really into that genre. I know that I have to give a try to Walking Dead sometime though. @hiphipjorge, do you now some other titles which are not about super hero ?
    In the not fantastic side I suppose everyone has heard of Calvin and Hobbes but in term of American graphic novels, if you don't mind reading some more serious books, Craig Thompson is definitively a must read. His art is just crazy good.

    Now about French-Belgium comics, unfortunately not as reknown as I would wish:
    An easy one since it is free, online and translated in English (legally) is the English blog of Boulet : http://english.bouletcorp.com/. Really funny and good art. (He is a one piece fan btw)
    La Quête de l'oiseau du temps by Loisel is one of the best fantasy comic I have ever read. I'm not sure it is easy to find in English but maybe in other languages.
    He is from Quebec but write in French and most of his comics are available in English : Guy Delisle. The art may look simple but the stories are really rich and interesting.
    Unfortunately I'm not sure some classic authors are translated : Franquin (Spirou, Gaston, Marsupilami), Fred (Philémon), Gotlib, Moebius (l'Incal, Blueberry) Gibrat, Hugo Pratt...
    Authors from new generation may be more easy to find : Johan Sfar, Lewis Trondheim, François Schuiten/Benoît Peeters, Christophe Blain, Manu Larcenet (La Vie ordinaire is one of the most touching comic ever), Frederik Peeters
     
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    I know you said that you're not into the superhero genre and that's fine but I just want to clarify something for those who are concerned about the messy and complicated continuity of American super hero comics.

    Some of the titles I listed above are a single story arc in a series that may have been ongoing for decades. While there are some references you may not get, for the most part, story arcs in comics are pretty self sufficient. Since new writers take over a title like Batman or Superman every few years, they tend to want establish their own stories. As long as you know the basics about the character (i.e who Batman is and who his main enemies are) you shouldn't have much to worry about.

    Others I listed like the Killing Joke and the Dark Knight Returns are true one shot graphic novels. They stand on their own and are intended to be outside the main DC continuity. They should be accessible to any new comic reader.
     
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    Ey @Divvens please tells us about Indian comics and Indian comic authors. Which ones are popular? Is it possible to read Indian comics on the web? :wideeyes:
     
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    We have one famous serialization (like weekly shonen jump) called "Amar Chitra Katha" (immortal picture stories), that contains most of the famous comics. It's not available online since there is no tradition to scan and put stuff online here, but many of the comics turned into cartoons and are shown on television (just like anime). We also have Indian mythical stories like Ramayan, Mahabartha being turned into quite entertaining animated series :p

    One of the more famous animated story/comic is Tenali Raman. It's based on a court jester during olden times who was very smart and helped the king out many times (he was sort of a hero), he was physically weak but he always used his brains to work things out.

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    Other famous comics which are included in "Amar Chitra Katha" are:
    • Suppandi: Probably one of the most famous character of the comic. Amuses everyone with his stupidity.
    • Shikari Shambu (Hunter Shambu): The faint hearted well renowned hunter, ends up being lauded for everything he did not achieve. Well, wild animals keep running into self made traps as he lies unconscious before them.
    • Tantri the Mantri: A evil sinister mantri (minister) called Tantri tries to dethrone the king, Raja (King) Hooja by his clever plans. The naive king trusts his minister more than anything in the world. The plot revolves around failure attempts of the minister as all his plans invariably backfire.
    Most Indian comics are targeted to kids aged 06-12, we don't have manga-type content :p But it's a famous market, we also hold Comic Cons in India since 2011 http://www.comicconindia.com/
     
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    With the webtoons taking the western web I just read A Story of Hope for the Bullied written by Elena Ciolacu from Britain and just... wow! A very touching short story and a nice read for bullied people.
     
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    I haven't been reading much American Comics lately. I've read a bunch of DC, Marvel and Image Stories but I've fallen out of Comics other than my usual Japanese stuff.

    The most recent works I can remember enjoying were DC Action Comics, Black Science(Image), and Five Ghosts(Image). I should really get back to Spawn and DC New 52 Batman.

    I also think I was supposed to start Invincible(Image) but never got around to it.....
     
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    Ey @kdom , have you read Lydie by Jordi Lefebre and Zidrou? Wow! It's such a sweet sweet story!
     
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    I've said this before bit ill say it again, Bone is one the greatest American comics/graphic novels and is perfect for a manga fan. Its funny and epic! :D
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    I really like European comics like Asterix, Tintin, Lucky Luke, Steven Sterk, etc alright :)
     
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    i was going to make a thread for DC, Image, Dark Horse and Marvel Comics but yeah i want to ask does anyone own any of the new series such the new events going on in any of the comics? or know of any popular series that are still going on?
     
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