Chapter Secrets #135 - Chapter 935 (in-depth analysis)

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  1. Artur

    Artur Big Mom

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    This was quite an odd chapter, but one I found deeply enjoyable to analyze. I’m definitely starting to take a lot more of a liking to Queen. By the way, stay tuned tomorrow because the new Vivre Card information will be posted by then!

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  2. Nitwit

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    I'm going to laugh my butt off if O-Tama uses her powers to make Solitaire her new BFF. lol

    I mean she's a monkey. So what else would she do being O-Tama's heading to prison with Big Mom on their side as a powerhouse? :p

    This arc always has one-off gags whenever someone does a thing in One Piece. We could end up with Monkey Waifu as O-Tama's new bodyguard. (She had a human horse so why not a human monkey?)
     
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    There should be two retainers "missing", not one I'm pretty sure:

    Kinemon
    Kiku
    Kanjuro
    Raizou
    Shutenmaru/Ashura Doji
    Denjiro
    Kawamatsu

    The other two is extremely likely to be Inuarashi and Nekomamushi.

    Glad you got wind of the Mink theory. Even if he isn't an otter, I feel pretty confident that he'll be a Mink myself. He may even explain how the Beast Pirates kept finding Zou, although that'd still leave some questions...
     
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    Oh yes, that was assuming that Kawamatsu was separate, but if we believe they are the same as the fifth retainer then it's just 7, with, just like you said, Inuarashi and nekomamsuhi being the other two.
    And yes, I also thought about him being the reason Jack found Zou. Perhaps he had a vivre card to go back to Zou all this time, which was taken by the Beasts Pirates when they captured him, explaining how Jack was able to find his way back.
     
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    Yea I just assumed that the hat retainer had to be either Kawamatsu or Denjiro. Oda keeps hammering in the concept of the Nine Scabbards, so I haven't had any real reason to consider additional retainers. Only mysteries now from my perspective is if Kawamatsu is a Mink, what happened to Hiyori (especially since people thought a retainer would look after her), and who is the Witching Hour boy.

    As for the Zou stuff, my question is that even if the Beast Pirates obtained a Vivre Card for Zunisha, or one of the Minks on Zou, it wouldn't answer how they specifically knew to look for Raizou and no one else.
     
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    Great work as always
    thank for the tag
     
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    Its also possible Denjiro is the Kamazo with the scythe, both sillhouettes had the same hairstyle.

    I think the 9 scabbards are:

    - Kinemon
    - Kanjuro
    - Raizo
    - Kiku
    - Kawamatsu

    These are the 5 Oden retainers seen in the flashbacks

    - Inuarashi
    - Nekomamushi
    - Denjiro/Kamazo (?)
    - Shutenmaru


    Tenguyama and the Witching Hour Boy seem to be separate from these 9. Also not accounting for the tons of other unique Samurai designs we'll probably come to know eventually
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    Also forgot that a mink has been feeding Kaido info. Super curious
     
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    Arara Roger

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    For some reason when I saw Queen dancing I immediately thought that he was pretending to ride a bike to get to the prison (like the knights in Monty Python and the holy grail galloping as if they are riding horses).

    Also in light of witnessing Queen's personality in this chapter I wonder if by Queen he is less Okama and more Drama Queen (i.e. overreacting to situations, overtly expressive).

    Of note is that Oda has just slapped lipstick or feminine lips on random straight people (Like Daz Bones or Iceberg)

    Also just because Queen likes Komourasaki doesn't necessarily mean that he's straight as he could be bisexual or pansexual.

    People have probably mentioned this before but Queen is probably the shipwright of the Beast pirates since he loves tinkering with how things work (and his mechanical hand is presumably self built).

    And Finally is Kawamatsu the same mysterious figure as the man seen sharing a cup of Sake with Crocus all the way back in Chapter 631's cover arc issue?
     
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    There's also the fact that Kawamatsu seems to have been in prison for a long time, so the Beast Pirates should have had access to that Vivre Card way before Jack attacked. Kawamatsu would have no reason to know what his buddies were up to 20 years later, either. I guess there could be separate answers to the questions 'How did Jack know Raizo was on Zou?' and 'How did Jack find Zou?'
     
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    Interesting... about the Haki thing. Even I was confused.

    But I guess it is as simple as that Luffy has reached his Haki limits. He will be able to use it soon again.

    About Kawamatsu and the hat guy... in the cover page of ch. 631, Crocus was drinking with the Hat guy. But Kawamatsu seems to be imprisoned for a long time. Is this means that ch. 631 cover page is not canon?

    You didn't use Zorojuro! Zoro's bad luck seems to continue.
     
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    He hasn't used Haki at all since being imprisoned, so he couldn't have reached his limits to begin with. The likely explanation is that due to the constant stamina drain and such, naturally it makes sense for that to have an effect on a DF user's ability to use Haki.

    No, it just means that Kawamatsu is not the man in the cover page lol
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    There could be. I always thought the streamlined answer for both of these questions would be a traitor that's present on Zou. That way, it makes it obvious how they'd know Raizou was there, as well as how the Beast Pirates would be able to find Zou.

    But if Kawamatsu is indeed a Mink, I'll definitely have to reconsider that theory.
     
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    Hello Arthur! Great work as always!
    From your last panels it makes absolute sense that all theories fit along very well to the fact that Kawamatsu is based on Kawauso.
    Here comes the poisonous fish eating otter mink, member of the nine red scabbards.

    I wonder how it fits with Neko and Inu being day and night bosses though.
     
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    Great post as always, you can tag me if you want!
     
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    Great analysis thanks a lot!

    At which sword of Zoro got stolen, my bet is on his Sandai Kitetsu. Yes the Shusui makes more sense cause of it's history with Wano, but Sandai Kitetsu makes sense if you consider it is his least powerful sword that can -with plot scenario- can upgrade with the Nidai Kitetsu if he lose the Sandai.

    edit: Forgot to say that, this way all of his swords can be of 21 O Wazamono Grade Swords
     
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    Good job like always bro.
     
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