Future Arcs & Events Blackbeard's quest for the Poneglyphs & the invasion of Whole Cake Island

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What will Blackbeard do?

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  1. Take advantage of the situation and target the poneglyph on Whole Cake Island

    43.8%
  2. Enter Wano at some stage and target the poneglyph of Kaido

    9.4%
  3. Observe as the chaos continues and plot his next move which is neither of the above options

    46.9%
  1. Telvin123

    Telvin123

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    Ch. 926 is a good example of what it actually looks like when there is potential foreshadowing of Blackbeard going to WCI. Reminded me of all the theories of Blackbeard going there during the WCI arc despite there being literally nothing close to actually foreshadowing/hinting that Blackbeard would magically arrive during the arc.

    Post-Ch. 926, now if he actually goes there, it won't feel completely random.

    That said, it could go either way. Both Wano and Totland have their own respective rewards for Blackbeard, as well as there being a potential Marineford parallel that he could fulfill in an arc with an antagonist that wishes to die, especially if he does want a 3rd DF.
     
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  2. A-Shihi

    A-Shihi

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    He might send Shilliew or laffite for bigmom's poneglyph

    Invading totoland even with bigmom absense is highly risky.
     
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  3. Iron Pirate

    Iron Pirate

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    Agreed. Blackbeard destroys her territory, maybe even takes some of the islands under her wing while she gets hammered by Kaido and all the other pirates in Wano. Even if she survives that assault it would leave her crew considerably weaker and no home to get back to and therefore now vulnerable to the Marines. Many possibilities here if Oda does decide to go this route

    Yups. It would also be a great way to take down a Yonkou. Oda has hyped them up so much that at this point in the series it is almost impossible for any crew to take down a Yonkou (even another Yonkou crew would face heavy losses trying to take out their rivals). But by chasing Luffy into another Yonkou's territory she has essentially paved the way of her own defeat. Half of her crew can be annihilated by Blackbeard and the other half by Kaido, some of the supernovas, and possibly the Marines if she makes it alive out of Wano.

    This way the Yonkou system begins to collapse as with the Warlords in the first half of the series and it doesn't seem unrealistic at all.

    How would Blackbeard know Luffy has the copies of the road poneglyphs? That could be something he assumes when going to Wano. But that would be a huge risk, wandering into a Kaido's territory not knowing if what he wants is actually there.

    On the other hand he can go to Whole Cake Island which does have the poneglyph and no Yonkou to protect it.
     
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  4. Shizzy

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    Na.. A full Scale Invasion doesn't seem worth it For One Poneglyph.. Knowing it's BM Territory. It won't be easy knowing She will Leave Behind some Ministers and Maybe A Sweet Commander or Two... It's literally Declaring War on another Yonko Which Are kinda Evenly Matched in power.. Until You add the Kuzan factor and the LV 6 prisoners....
    Still...... BMP are strong.. A simple Infiltration Mission should be useful.. I mean what else is shillew DF Going to be used For..
     
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  5. AName

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    ah that I dont know. I dont remember ever reading something like that.
     
  6. D. Calamity

    D. Calamity

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    Levely (Doflamingo?)
    WCI (Phoneglyph, Pudding?)
    Wano (Phoneglyph, Kaido's Zoan?)
    Other
     
  7. Iron Pirate

    Iron Pirate

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    You're really undervaluing the poneglyphs. To become the Pirate King which is Blackbeards goal he needs to possess all four of the poneglyphs (or atleast copies of them). What better chance to capture one of the four stones when some of the strongest members of the crew aren't there. Then there is also all the fame, fortune & territory that comes along with such and invasion. I'm not saying this will happen at all, but this is the greatest opportunity Blackbeard might ever have to take Big Mom's poneglyph.
     
  8. Shizzy

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    Again It's just One Poneglyph.. Which is useless without the other Three. And with Big Mom on his Tail. The Marines.. Not to mention he Attacked The Revolutionary Base. So Revos are on his Case also.. I really Think It would be a Dumb move on teach Part to do that
     
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  9. Erkan12

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    Obviously he is plotting something, but it could be more about infiltration since he wanted the invisibility power for his FM, he could've sent Shiryu to Dressrosa to get the mera mera no mi, but he didn't.
     
  10. jagajaga

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    All marines guarding Reverie
    RA fight marines at Reverie
    BM left her territory
    All out war at Wano
    There is no way BB won't take advantage of these situation
     
  11. Iron Pirate

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    So Chapter 930 confirmed that along with Big Mom, her force also includes Perespero, Smoothie, Daifuku & Mont D'or among other people.

    Assuming there isn't another ship also going to Wano then Katakuri, Snack & Cracker are possibly at home defending Whole Cake Island.

    The Revolutionaries invaded the Reverie and another big event happened (which we don't know of yet). It is fair to say that the World Government and Revolutionaries are focused on each other due to recent events.

    Shiryu has the invisibility fruit and Caterina can shapeshift into others. Both abilities which are perfect for infiltration. The defenses of Tottoland are weakened if only because Big Mom and a considerable number of her powerful fighters are not present.

    With Big Mom in amnesia mode and separated from the rest of the crew any call for reinforcements from back home will go unanswered. Thats also assuming Blacbeard goes for a full scale invasion. Upon reconsidering he may just go for a quick infiltration mission to grab the poneglyph.

    With Big Mom away, the World Government and Revolutionaries dealing with the fallout from the Reverie the only thing that can stop Blackbeard from attaining his first poneglyph is probably the only person who realizes how big of a threat he is and that man is Shanks.

    Blackbeard couldn't have had a better opportunity to get the poneglyph under Big Mom's possession.
     
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  12. Roll Credits

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    Would he need to do this if he's working with a former admiral? It just occurred to me working with Kuzan may make invading WCI unnecessary in search of poneglyphs. If he's going out to recruit new members from Big Mom's ranks or capturing her territory that makes better sense then, when he has sufficient forces, he could raid Mariejois for what he needs in terms of finding the One Piece.

    Kuzan could be feeding them information on rare DFs as well.
     
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  13. iceteahottea

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    Simple. Big Mom took the ponegylph with her and placed it in the mirror world or in Mont'Dor's book which could also be stashed in the mirror world. Why leave your most prized possession unguarded? Even if Big Mom left strong defenders (despite it being a dumb idea), what can those strong defenders do if there are multipler attackers targeting different parts of her territory? Are they just after the poneglyph? If so, how will a few strong fighters defend against the full might of a yonko attack? It is the most illogical thing to half-ass protect your territory and treasure whilst you a full scale wage war against another yonko. If it is so important, bring your treasure with you and also bring the full might of your military. You can come back to conquer your territory afterwards if someone has taken it.
     
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