One Piece VS. Battles Big Mom's Hypothetical Grand Fleet vs The Oro Jackson ship-battle

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  1. Gnomishness

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    On one side of the water:

    Big Mom's Grand fleet as seen during the latest chapters' sea battle. IE: Hundreds of Tart Ships, hundreds of gingerbread paddle-boats, several different unique ships of the individual Big Mom Pirate children, the Queen Mama Chanter and the Candy Sea-Slug Homie.
    In addition to all that; Bege's Notra Castello, the floating kingdom of Germa 66 and the Sun-Pirate Allies including Wadasumi allowed as support from the water.

    Vs

    The legendary ship, the OroJackson.

    All of the ships are fully supplied and all in pristine condition. All of the Big Mom fleet is outfitted with Candy-jacketed ammunition.

    The starting distance is 1 km away.

    Fight takes place off the shores of Cacao Island.

    Round 1: Each side has suitable numbers of each group's generic fodder for piloting said ships. No named or otherwise special characters in this battle. Truly just ship vs ships.

    Round 2: The present day remains of Roger Pirates (sans Shanks) are on the Orojackson. The Big Mom Fleet includes their full roster minus Big Mom herself, which includes the full Germa, the Firetank Pirates, and the Sun Pirates.

    Round 3: The present day remains of Roger Pirates (including Shanks) are on the Orojackson. The Big Mom fleet still includes everybody as well as Big Mom herself this time.

    Round 4: Gol D Roger is alone on his ship. The Big Mom fleet still includes everybody they had from Round 3.

    Round 5: The olden days Roger Pirates, as we see in chapter 0 against Shiki, vs The Big Mom fleet from Round 3, with the addition of the Giant Warrior Pirates including Dorry, Broggy and Harujin, their crews and several of their longboats assisting the Big Mom Fleet.

    Victory is by destroying all of the opponent's ships to the irreparable state that so much as bringing it a kilometer back to Cacao Island would be impossible. No "claiming" your opponent's ships.

    I think that The Big Mom Pirates take Round 1 easily, Round 2 without notable difficulty, that Round 3 is the toughest for them yet, but still with them as the clear winners, Round 4 as an easy win for the Big Mom Pirates due to how difficult it would be to maneuver a ship by yourself, and Round 5 becomes a utter miss, but ultimately has the Roger Pirates losing high diff in the face of absurd firepower.
     
  2. Veljko

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    Round 1: Each side has suitable numbers of each group's generic fodder for piloting said ships. No named or otherwise special characters in this battle. Truly just ship vs ships.
    BMP wins...its still +1000 ships

    Round 2: The present day remains of Roger Pirates (sans Shanks) are on the Orojackson. The Big Mom Fleet includes their full roster minus Big Mom herself, which includes the full Germa, the Firetank Pirates, and the Sun Pirates.
    Without Shanks? BMP wins only person we know From Oro Jackson are Inu & Neko, Rayleigh and Buggy..
    Round 3: The present day remains of Roger Pirates (including Shanks) are on the Orojackson. The Big Mom fleet still includes everybody as well as Big Mom herself this time.
    BMP wins ... Its Inu, Neko, Shanks, Buggy, Rayleigh v BM, 3 SC, 5 veterans thousands of fodders

    Round 4: Gol D Roger is alone on his ship. The Big Mom fleet still includes everybody they had from Round 3.
    BMP wins i doubt Roger alone could beat whole Yonko crew
    Round 5: The olden days Roger Pirates, as we see in chapter 0 against Shiki, vs The Big Mom fleet from Round 3, with the addition of the Giant Warrior Pirates including Dorry, Broggy and Harujin, their crews and several of their longboats assisting the Big Mom Fleet.
    Roger Pirate wins this..
     
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    No faith in how special the Oro Jackson was?
    You forgot Crocus.

    Most people also think Scopper Gaban is around somewhere.

    You'd think that there would be more minor character survivors beyond that, too.
    I thought that this being a scenario battle would prevent an automatic math answer, but I guess that we'll never get that.
    Fair enough.
    So even Big Mom's ideal fleet that she said she could be Pirate King with, doesn't stand a chance against the not-technically-prime Roger pirates in their single ship...
     
  4. TheoryKing

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    Orojackson loses in all scenarios, unless a bad storm comes up, allowing the Orojackson to escape. Other than that, Orojackson is sunk under the sea.


    Unless by a ship battle you mean, where Rayleigh can go jumping around ship to ship and destroy them with airslashes and etc.

    Thenn... Orojackon wins: Round 2, Round 3, Round 5. The ship will still get destroyed though.


    No matter how special, the Orojackson is, at end of the day it is still 1 ship

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    Prime Ray is Yonko level. Probably above current Shanks. Maybe equal to Mihawk if not above. This plus Roger himself and a powerful crew that is all about quality.

    Most of the fleets get knocked out by CoC alone. The ships that still move get sliced by Rayleigh.

    Maybe meanwhile Roger swims over casually to wreck the ships and Big Mom with his fists.
     
  6. Gnomishness

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    There will not be a natural storm to save them, but some people think that top level CoC can create storms.

    That would be allowed.

    The Big Mom pirates are also allowed to that though, so the obvious risk is that sending people out to destroy other ships will leave the OroJackson defenseless and the first one with their ship(s) completely destroyed is the first one to lose.

    If the ship gets destroyed, at least, to the point of no longer even being useful as floatsome, the Orojackson loses.

    Good point, though this goes back to the theory that CoC can alter the weather.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 13, 2018, Original Post Date: Jul 13, 2018 ---
    Prime Rayleigh isn't necessarily here; Only old Rayleigh and chapter 0 Rayleigh in the last scenario.

    This can happen before one of the many characters or ships on Big mom's side can sink the Oroyackson?
    He is allowed to do that, though Big Mom is allowed to fly around to avoid that.
     
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    Only luck will save Roger to win
    As against shiki

    BMP solo
     
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