Are the Calamities considerably stronger than the Sweet Commanders?

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Are the Calamities stronger than the SCs?

  1. Yes (Big Mom's crew is more balanced overall)

    20.5%
  2. No (they're even or very close to each other)

    60.3%
  3. Yes (Big Mom's crew is weaker overall)

    16.3%
  4. No (the SCs are stronger)

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  1. Kung Fu Dugong

    Kung Fu Dugong

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    Reasons:

    1. Bounties: Jack, probably the weakest of the three calamities, has an 1 billion bounty, while Katakuri, the strongest SC, has about the same bounty.

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    2. Crews: Big Mom's crew seems more balanced overall. The strongest members of Jack's crew, Sheepshead and Ginrummy, are very weak (Sheepshead was one-shotted by Sanji). Scotch, an important Kaido's ally, is also very weak (he was defeated by Caribou). The only powerful Kaido's allies shown so far are X Drake and Apoo (but the Shogun of Wano should be strong too). Big Mom on the other hand has (or had) many powerful underlings and allies (Jinbe, Capone, Daifuku, Oven, Tamago, Pekoms...).

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    -- EDIT -- 3. Numbers: Big Mom originally had four SCs. If the Yonko crews are even, then (1) her commanders are weaker; or (2) Kaido still has many unknown powerful underlings and allies.

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    I know that most of Kaido's crew and allies weren't shown, but 1/3 of his crew (except Jack) already looks like crap. So, what do you people think about it?
     
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  2. Kejon

    Kejon

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    I think they are all on the same level. Maybe some are a bit stronger but overall they are even.
     
  3. Jakubi

    Jakubi

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    Bounty =/= strength
    Kaidos crew are savages that kill and slaughter for fun, BMs crew isn't the same, that's perhaps why Kaidos crew has bigger bounties, they are more of a threat to the normal civilan than BMs crew
     
  4. Kung Fu Dugong

    Kung Fu Dugong

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    Well, the Big Mom Pirates can destroy entire kingdoms just for food... :D

    But I agree with you, this could be the reason for Jack's huge bounty.


    But hey, we can't forget that Big Mom originally had 4 SCs. If the Yonko crews are even, then (1) the SCs are weaker than the Calamities; or (2) Kaido's crew still has many unknown powerful members and/or allies.
     
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  5. The Curly Haired Ninja

    The Curly Haired Ninja

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    "=" means on the same lvl

    Kaido = BM
    King = Katakuri
    Queen = Smoothie
    Jack = Cracker
    Doflamingo= Snack
    Shogun = Peroperos
    X drake = Compote ( still have high hopes for her)

    Don't know the rest
     
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  6. Kung Fu Dugong

    Kung Fu Dugong

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    Oh yeah, I forgot about DoFlamingo! but he didn't fight for Kaido (officially he was a WG agent)... he was only his SMILEs supplier.
     
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    The Curly Haired Ninja

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    I don't know, I would still count him as his ally
     
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  8. Hero Sanji

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    They're overall on the same level imo. Individually it's very hard to say if we consider that we have only seen Jack so far and even there not enough proper feats...the other Calamaties have yet to appear.

    I can unfortunately already say that bounties and the fact that the Sweet Commamders were shown prior to the Calamaties will have a huge affect on people while giving their opinion as of current state.
     
  9. ShinmenTakezo

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    Doflamingo is not part of his crew, nonsense
     
  10. TheAncientCenturion

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    I'd say Kaido will have the stronger crew.
     
  11. BOCCHI

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    Calamities are for sure stronger than SCs tho wouldn't say by much as in
    King vs Kata would be very close
    Queen vs Smoothie very close
    Jack vs Cracker very close
    And the winner in all are the calamities, but I could see the gap being bigger if we put the weakest against the stronger.. imo.
     
  12. 1000Merry

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    Bounty don't mean Jack lol punny.

    Seriously though....the fact law has a equal bounty to luffy should dispel 90 percent of this bounty garbage as well as jacks actions in using WMDs. He was literally about to commit genocide on the entire mink race to find one samurai (ninja). Jack is a bastard who throws his entire crew away to attack an admiral, a former va and tsuru who is states by doffy to be pretty strong...then gets the remaining crew he has left killed by attacking a Everest sized elephant who one shot his whole squad. Jack the drought is a fool! Katikuri is not.

    The commanders have gotta be equalish or the yonko themself would have to be weaker then others to compensate
     
  13. Plex

    Plex Wanted! Wanted Roger Big Mom Cracker Katakuri Smoothie

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    Kaido's crew was hyped up as "monsters" by Doflamingo

    A term he has only used twice; once to describe Whitebeard and later on Fujitora/Ryokugyu

    Big Mom's pile of unnecessary trash didn't get this hype, so I'll stick with Kaido's crew>Big Mom's
     
  14. God_Maggi

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    To me they're very close with the calamities being stronger.
     
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    Yeah, that last chapter should squash that notion, even Smoothie pointed out how stupid it was to underestimate the Big Mom pirates.
    --- Double Post Merged, Jul 2, 2017, Original Post Date: Jul 2, 2017 ---
    I don't know where people are getting that the Calamities are stronger, but it's really on speculation with no proof.
     
  16. Sadistic Senpai

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    To me they are all close, it depends on who fights who and the fighting style of each one. You might find XXX who beats AAA who beats CCC who comes back at full circle and beats XXX. Things are not easy to predicts
     
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    You're right, we have no proofs just speculation.
     
  18. mettalica.D.symon

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    WB had 16 commanders, BB has 10 Titan captains. That said I think every yonko has a true elite Monster trio. WB we have Marco, Jozu and Vista (the guy who stalemated Mihawk), Big mom has Cracker, Smoothie and Katakuri, Kaido has the calamities. BB strongest three are probably Shiliew, Lafitte Kuzan/Burgess (not sure about this crew). Point is all those guys are pretty similar in terms of strength. I guess Snack would be the Ace of WB or Drake of Kaido etc.
     
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    Well you could say Ginrumy/sheepshead to be very weak compared to the likes of Sanji but I am pretty sure Kaido has his own set of fierce warriors outside the calamities, pretty sure we will see the beast pirates version of Daifuku and the rest of these guys.

    It's just that we haven't seen them yet. And they don't have to be perfectly balanced in every sense.
     
  20. Xlaw

    Xlaw Wanted! Wanted Roger Big Mom Cracker Katakuri Smoothie

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    BM's crew seems more balanced than WB's crew....(we don't know much about Beasts crew)
    In my opinion top 3-4 commanders of all yanko are around same level...
    But compared to WB's commanders BM has more powerful mid tier fighters...
    And since Kaido is WSC so I'm expecting his crew has weaker "mid tier" fighters than BM's for the sake of balance..
     
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