Comments on Profile Post by Ivan Zonder

  1. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    Well , i don't want to offend anyone but i was just pissed off and lost control , i just want religious people to think whether merciful God really exist or not

    Because it'd be strange if a merciful God does exist , but at the same time 226,7 millions people are starving in Africa alone , and that number definitely included kids https://imgur.com/nqgv7Zw
    Jun 1, 2019
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  2. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    This alone easily decreased my belief in God

    I'm a Muslim btw
    Jun 1, 2019
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  3. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    I'm not promoting Atheism , but i think it's really possible a God does not exist , especially a merciful one , considering extremely fucked up things like that
    Jun 1, 2019
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  4. Deleted member 34523
    Deleted member 34523
    Religion was created by human to form the cult .
    Jun 1, 2019
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  5. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    That's really possible
    Jun 1, 2019
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  6. Hasashi
    Hasashi
    which religions teach that God does not allow suffering, like one person or ''226,7 million people'' starving, to exist in the world? Do you think God's attribute (Ar-Rahmaan, Ar-Raheem) in islam somehow translates to that? If so, I would be interested in you explaining how you came to that idea.
    Jun 1, 2019
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  7. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    Well if he allows it i'm not impressed
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  8. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    No idea what's the point of allowing people suffer
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  9. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    Especially for an all knowing god
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  10. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    Allowing people suffer to test them ? What's the point of that when you already know the results

    Sometimes i even got my dreams right , surely a god is far better than just sometimes
    Jun 1, 2019
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  11. Hasashi
    Hasashi
    You first gave the impression that there was some rational argument to be made. It seems instead that you're demanding that God should give account to you of why there's suffering.
    Jun 1, 2019
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  12. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    Yes i want anwers is there something wrong with that

    Though since it's not even certain that god existed , i can't really hope for an answer , he can't be heard or seen

    Hell if anyone prays to god asking just for 1 dollar i bet god wouldn't instantly give it , if he does exist
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  13. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    What's pissed me off more is that god would burn people for eternity for not believing in him
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  14. Hasashi
    Hasashi
    Do you even comprehend what you're asking an ''answer'' to? Like, give me an example of a possible answer (you think God could give you).
    Jun 1, 2019
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  15. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    I don't care . Allowing people to suffer or making people suffer when you can prevent them or not doing it especially since you're almighty is fucked up
    Jun 1, 2019
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  16. Hasashi
    Hasashi
    why does that piss you off?
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  17. Hasashi
    Hasashi
    what do you mean ''I don't care''. You said you wanted an answer from God. I'm asking give an example of a type of answer. Are you saying an answer that would satisfy you does not exist?
    Jun 1, 2019
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  18. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    I'm pissed off . Can't think properly
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  19. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    Watching UCL Final right now also lol
    Jun 1, 2019
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  20. Ivan Zonder
    Ivan Zonder
    That those cruel things are happening when god could totally prevent them
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  21. Hasashi
    Hasashi
    I think it's good you're not blind to the suffering (def better than totally not caring/ignoring). It's human nature to get upset by it. However, it's misdirected when people pretend this reflects bad on God / try to stir emotions against God. At most, it would be an argument against a religion which claims God does not allow it.
    Jun 1, 2019
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  22. Hasashi
    Hasashi
    Also as muslims let's try to do our share, which God commanded us, to alleviate the suffering.
    Jun 1, 2019
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