Big Mom and Caesars Candy

Is big mom somehow effected by NHC10?

  1. Joy_Boy
    Here is a youtube video

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    Part 1: Big mom is an Ally *Updated Theory*
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    Big Mom’s theme:
    Firstly, I think it’s both interesting and important to note that Big Mom and her crew are most likely inspired by Alice in Wonderland. @Suuuuper did a great job of explaining this in his theory thread here:
    The take home point:
    Basically, the Red Queen in the story appears to be an enemy, but really helps Alice along the way of becoming a queen herself.
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    Lola is Big Mom’s Daughter:
    I know this is a popular theory, but for those who may not know or perhaps have forgotten, I still think this is true.
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    Additionally, Lola refers to her mother as “mama”, just as Big Mom’s crew refers to Big Mom. And Lol's friends revealed that Lola's mother is a "powerful pirate".
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    Also, we know that Big Mom has AT LEAST 35 daughters, as Sanji is expected to be wed to Big Mom’s 35th daughter Purin. Speaking of weddings, Lola has asked someone to marry her almost 5000 times!!!

    Since we know that the SH’s must use the vivre card they received from Lola at some point, I think there is no better candidate than Big Mom as Lola’s “mama”.
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    Big Mom’s Allies:
    If we assume Lola is Big Mom’s daughter, then we have at least 2 obvious nakama already from Big Mom’s crew: Lola and Pekoms.

    The situation with Pekoms is perhaps the strangest thing i’ve ever seen in One Piece if Big Mom were to become an enemy. One of her most loyal, and strongest crew members IS AN ALLY to the straw hats and will inevitably sneak Luffy into the tea party against his captains wishes.

    Pekoms owes a debt to the Straw Hats that would absolutely prevent him from seriously participating in the fight vs. The SH’s if Big Mom were to declare them enemies at the Tea Party.
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    While some could argue that Pekoms will only play a role similar to Gin in the Baratie Arc, I think this has been set up differently. Remember gin was a bad guy who was made good by the actions of Sanji; whereas Pekoms legitimately seems like a good guy already. He didn’t need any extra convincing to spare the SH’s after he became aware that they saved Zou.
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    Conclusion:
    I believe Oda has left us plenty of clues that big Mom is actually going to end up being an ally, whether that’s sooner or later is to be decided.

    From here I have additional ideas as to how this would work out as far as the story is concerned, but want to post it in layers to make it more bearable to read
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    Part 2: Big Mom’s relationship with Caesar and NHC10
    http://orojackson.com/threads/big-mom-and-her-past.13693/
    http://www.**************/Thread-One-Piece-Vegapunk-Turned-Big-Mom-Into-A-Giant
    And others, link me if you think I should credit other sources. This is mostly my thoughts but I know others have theorized this before, or something similar.
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    Question: Is Big Mom an evil ally??

    So, how can we explain this observed dichotomy with the character Big Mom. She herself has been portrayed as villainous, even so far as to suggest SHE EATS PEOPLE.
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    Yet, there seem to be plenty of clues that she may not be the enemy she appears to be.
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    Question: How can we explain this?
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    Doflamingo’s Plot and Caesar:
    Remember Whitebeards medicine and where it likely came from?
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    That’s right.. Doflamingo. Doflamingo has some connection with Whitebeard, Kaido... AND Big Mom. Remember, Caesar works for Doffy. If Big Mom is after Caesar, this directly effects Doflamingo.

    Many speculate the WB’s “medicine” was actually part of the reason his health was deteriorating rapidly, and ultimately caused his death at Marineford.

    Could Doflamingo have been secretly plotting the downfall of all the Yonko in a similar manner? Let’s see if there are any clues we can dig up.
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    Firstly, lets look at the possible clues the underground members may have revealed as they watched events unfold at Punk Hazard. And guess who’s a part of the party...
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    *Note* that is not their speech bubble, it’s Caesars.
    At this time we can see that Pekoms and Tamago are merely watching the presentation. Luckily for us they eventually have a reaction.
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    Immediately following Luffy’s defeat of Caesar, which was witnessed by the underworld members, Pekoms roars with anger as he clenches his fist while Tamago informs us that they will “inform mama” of what transpired.

    We know that ultimately, this event caused Big Mom to seek out Caesar. Why would Caesars defeat have angered Big Mom and her subordinates so much? I think it’s because Caesar was providing some kind of service to Big Mom, which they knew he could not continue to do once defeated.
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    Question: And what could Caesar be giving to Big Mom?
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    Candy. Perhaps, even the very same Candy that was given to the children of Punk Hazard called NHC10.

    This candy, while being delicious, has a couple drawbacks though.
    1. It is extremely addictive and the withdrawal is intense.
    2. Over time, this Candy drug can act like a poison
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    The withdrawal symptoms are noteworthy as well. Children who don’t get the drug at regular intervals experience heightened aggression, loss of sense and reason and drooling.

    Seem familiar?
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    Notice how the Children become completely different people... I think Big Mom has under gone the same personality transformation! Which is to say, she has not been shown acting like she normally would. This could potentially also explain her giant proportions as well.

    And here’s a little bit of possible foreshadowing that I found from a theorist call Heroe on the Marineford forums.http://www.**************/Thread-One-Piece-Vegapunk-Turned-Big-Mom-Into-A-Giant
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    Does this tree in the Childrens room indicate their relationship to Big Mom?

    However, the problem is that she can not longer receive that Candy from Caesar, given his current predicament. And thus, her rage and temperament I believe is due to the withdrawal. Also remember what Big Mom said about not receiving candy she has been promised?
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    This could be some huge foreshadowing.
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    Question: So how did Caesar swindle Big Mom into giving him a huge amount of research funds?
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    I think that he told her he would stop giving her, her favorite candy if she didn’t. Knowing that he had the protection of Doflamingo and Kaido, i’m sure Caesar felt he was protected from Big Mom’s rage.
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    What he says is interesting, “what was I supposed to do, I thought Doflamingo had my back!!”.
    I think it’s very possible Doflamingo orchestrated this entire thing. Doflamingo I believe was the mastermind who told Caesar to give Big Mom a delicious and poisonous Candy, with which Doflamingo would be able to weaken the Yonko and to some extent be able to extort her for funds for other experiments Doffy had Caesar conduct. Perhaps other experiments such as SMILE.

    I think Doflamingos plots were intended to usher in the “new age” he’s been going on about, and eventually make Doffy the king of the new age.
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    Question: So, how will Big Mom revert to her normal self again?
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    This will be Choppers role, as he is already very experienced with treating the effects of NHC10.
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    Conclusion:
    I think that Big Mom receive the Candy NHC10 from Caesar as part of Doflamingos plot to overthrow Big Mom. Because of this, I think that Big Mom became reliant of Caesars candy because of it’s awful withdrawal effects, and that it is slowly killing and has currently weakened the great Yonko. I also believe this candy has also drastically changed her personality, which explains how she could eventually be an ally, while at the same time appearing so evil right now. I think that Chopper will accompany Luffy to the tea party and be instrumental in helping Big Mom recover her sanity.
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    UPDATE:
    Recently we learned almost for a fact that Lola IS Big Mom's daughter. And that Big Mom probably DOESN'T eat people, but rather animated sweets.

    Also, we learned that Big Mom has a "eating disorder" which causes her to lose her sanity. This seems REMARKABLY SIMILAR to how the kids of PH reacted to withdrawal from NHC10...

    While there are slight differences, and it appears that Big Mom may not need any specific kind of drug to regain her sanity, I still think NHC10 and Candy could still be Big Mom's connection to Caesar Clown!
    Zazhi, HOLY ONE, Kyros and 3 others like this.

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  1. Theo Ries
    Theo Ries
    5/5,
    Dude, I have to give this 5 stars because it deserves more than 4 on its average rating. I'm studying layout and learning about possible ways to improve my novice theorist skills, so I decided to turn to a master for an example. I see I have a loooong way to go. Also, you should throw a new theory on OJ some time!
    1. Joy_Boy
      Author's Response
      Was your name Theo Ry on YouTube as well??

      Glad you enjoyed my old post man, reading back on it I was pretty on point in a lot of ways, but not completely! Do you plan on making theories? If so, I wish you luck, and thx for suggesting I do more Oro Jackson theories, I will.
  2. Dave
    Dave
    4/5,
    1st of gr8 theory
    1.big mom as red queen is quite well established at this point
    so no surprise there
    2.we still have to see rest of her family but so far none of them are bad guys to
    3.both Lola and purin are two critical points of this being daughter of big mom and good relations with strawhats
    4.ceaser 's case maybe possible and its manifestation as disorder
    rather then withdrawal maybe due to different kind of drug even so chopper will play a big role in it
    5 .i also belive big mom or atlest big mom pirates may align with strawhats but role of germa66 will be deciding factor
    1. Joy_Boy
      Author's Response
      ya, this was an old theory as well xD but many of the main points have been proven already with some hints that the conclusion may be very close as well! ^^